Electric Universe

[slev]

I'm not going to get involved here in general, but you may want to look up "permativity of free space".

As I was taught at uni, electrical conductivity is formed by the drift motion of an electron string under a potential difference. This cannot occur in vacuum, as there are no electrons to flow, thus it acts as an insulator.

[Gold Bearer]

Of course there's electrons in space. Besides, whether the medium has electrons or not is not what determines whether it's a conductor or an insulator. Obviously if there are no electrons then there's no current but it's whether or no it is capable of sustaining a current that determines whether or not it's a conductor. How can space be an insulator if it has no resistance? Even according to mainstream science, space is a perfect conductor.

[slev]

Of course there's electrons in space. Besides, whether the medium has electrons or not is not what determines whether it's a conductor or an insulator. Obviously if there are no electrons then there's no current but it's whether or no it is capable of sustaining a current that determines whether or not it's a conductor. How can space be an insulator if it has no resistance? Even according to mainstream science, space is a perfect conductor.

"Space" is short hand for hard vaccuum, which has no maater by definition. Thus there is no resistance and no conductivity as there is no matter there to resist or conduct the drift of a charge.

If you're discussing an exo-terrestrial, non-planetary environment in which matter occurs, then there can be conductivity, but that envirnonment is not what is commony denoted by the term "space".

Alternatively, you could mean the free propegation of electrons, which is not the same as conductivity.

[Gold Bearer]

Some lovely videos for anyone who's interested.

Lightning featuring some really beautiful images and a naturally occurring baby sun on Earth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NArI1esSQnI

Our fractal universe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv01F7FH5_c

Anti-gravity demonstration. This has definitely been hidden for ages. Building a pyramid would be a lot easier using this method. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa7Y3LgvWtU

The reason why it wasn't a problem for the dinosaurs that it's shown that they were incapable of supporting their own weight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuGw8iKK8Mc

Nice independent video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URL6VrGEqWQ

"Space" is short hand for hard vaccuum, which has no maater by definition. Thus there is no resistance and no conductivity as there is no matter there to resist or conduct the drift of a charge.

By that definition there's either no such thing as space or there's no such thing as a place without it. It's just a matter of degree how much space is in any given area because it depends who closely you look at it.

If you're discussing an exo-terrestrial, non-planetary environment in which matter occurs, then there can be conductivity, but that envirnonment is not what is commony denoted by the term "space".

Yea, it needs plasma.

Alternatively, you could mean the free propegation of electrons, which is not the same as conductivity.

Freely moving electrons would mean a perfect conductor, but they'd be no usable energy because they'd be no resistance. Electrical resistance is what powerssomething. That doesn't mean it's an insulator, just the opposite. It's just that electrons can't liberate energy if they're freely moving. Maybe I've misunderstood what you meant.

Finally somebody who has the communication skills to make points without being insulting.

[slev]

OK, so basically, the facts that you are trying to communicate are correct, the words you are usin to communicate them are not, which is why people are dissagreeing with you!

[Gold Bearer]

No resistence means it's a conductor! I'm putting my foot down.

[slev]

No resistence means it's a conductor! I'm putting my foot down.

That's not how electricity works. V=IR works for a *substance*, where as you're tying to calculate it for a vacuum.

[Gold Bearer]

I'm taking about the flow of electrons and you're taking about calculating usable energy from the flow of electrons, so to you it's an insulator and to me it's a perfect conductor. We're both right because we're taking about slightly different things.

[slev]

A conductor is anything which conducts a flow of particles.
There are to particles in a vacuum, thus it cannot conduct them.

What you are talking about is not conduction of electricity, but the propagation of particles. This is a different phenomenon.

So you are right about what you describe being true, but you are using the wrong words!

[Gold Bearer]

A conductor is anything which conducts a flow of particles.
There are to particles in a vacuum, thus it cannot conduct them.

What you are talking about is not conduction of electricity, but the propagation of particles. This is a different phenomenon.

So you are right about what you describe being true, but you are using the wrong words!

The word conduction doesn't only apply to usable electrical energy, it can apply to anything. Empty space is a perfect conductor of electrons. I may be using the words in a slightly different context than they usually are but that doesn't make the wording wrong. Blame the EU community, they refer to empty space as a perfect conductor and plasma as a nearly perfect conductor, making it ideal for the transmition of electrical energy. Besides I think this...

Space is a perfect conductor because it has no resistance. That's useless for generating a usable charge that can power anything because electrical energy is actually powered by the resistance in the flow of electrons. The ideal carrier for liberated electrical energy has a tiny resistance. The lower the resistance the better, as long as it has some resistance. Any more resistance than the bare minimum reduces the amount of usable energy because you loose more by restricting the current than what you gain from the resistance itself. Plasma is almost a perfect conductor so that's exactly what's needed.

...is perfectly clear. This...

If you can't even get basic measurable physics correct then I see no hope. Space has loads of resistance (the puns just make themselves). The terms you use don't even make sense in the context you use them. I'm going to have to bow out here, I see no productive resolution is going to occur. You either don't know what you are talking about or you are trolling. Believe whatever you want, the whole dragons and ancient beings makes more sense than anything you have said, regardless of whether EU has any merit or not.

...is just Cornixt being an arsehole but making himself look like a moron for not understanding it. "Space has loads of resistance" Classic!