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Re: Kickstarting Pastiche Heroquest Miniatures

Postby chaoticprime » June 17th, 2013, 9:54 pm

I am not interested in pursuing this using multiple mediums of production. 3D printing miniatures is not the way to go with the Kickstarter. The miniatures that are printed off of them have to be molded and recast as a stronger material to be produced, anyway. I already have two sculptors waiting in the wings, one of whom learned his trade under the guy responsible for the original look of the GW Orc and Goblin. The other sculptor is Michael Brower, one of the more active sculptors working with Reaper Miniatures, who also happens to already be a big fan of HeroQuest.

Also, Decipher, if you cannot wait on a Minotaur, here is an auction for the Warhammer Quest/Talisman 3rd Ed Minotaurs: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-CLASSIC-PLAST ... 589b13b989

They look perfect alongside HQ stuff.


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Re: Kickstarting Pastiche Heroquest Miniatures

Postby Sjeng » June 18th, 2013, 1:01 am

Decipher, there's a guy over at Old Scratch called Ivan who has some as well, he sells 2 for €7,00 (ex. shipping)
I just bought AHQ from him for €55,- :D
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Re: Kickstarting Pastiche Heroquest Miniatures

Postby Sjeng » June 18th, 2013, 9:18 am

http://www.incomediary.com/ultimate-gui ... r-campaign

a good read. On top of all that, we need to determine the costs for each level of rewards. Plus the whole legality issue.
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Re: Kickstarting Pastiche Heroquest Miniatures

Postby chaoticprime » June 18th, 2013, 1:14 pm

This, just in!

CHICAGO, IL – In a classic David-versus-Goliath battle, Winston & Strawn LLP represented Chapterhouse Studios LLC on a pro bono basis in a cutting-edge federal trademark and copyright dispute in the Northern District of Illinois (Games Workshop Limited v. Chapterhouse Studios LLC 1:10-cv-8103). The verdict of this jury trial, held in June 2013 before Judge Matthew Kennelly, confirms that copyright and trademark law should not be used to block add-on products. Winston & Strawn has litigated the case since 2010, and co-counsel law firm Marshall Gerstein joined the matter in 2012.

“This was a classic case of trademark and copyright bullying by a much bigger Plaintiff,” said Jennifer Golinveaux, partner in Winston & Strawn’s San Francisco office. “I am proud of the investment made by the firm, and the many attorneys who devoted themselves to making sure the intellectual property laws were not misused to squash a much smaller player.”

Games Workshop manufactures Warhammer 40,000, a tabletop battle game that works with armies of miniature figures and vehicles, while Chapterhouse sells customized add-on parts for the figures and vehicles used in the game. The United Kingdom-based Games Workshop, a company with $200 million per year in revenues, alleged more than 200 claims of copyright and trademark infringement against Chapterhouse, a small business run out of an individual’s garage in Texas. Games Workshop argued that it was seeking a complete shutdown of Chapterhouse’s entire business and although Games Workshop initially sought over $400,000 in damages, by the end of the two-week jury trial, the plaintiff dropped its damages demand to only $25,000.

The jury deliberated for more than two days and found that Chapterhouse could continue to make and sell over a hundred products without fear of copyright infringement. The jury also confirmed that Chapterhouse could continue to use most of Games Workshop’s asserted trademarks when selling compatible parts, including all nine of Games Workshop’s registered trademarks. Together with the summary judgment wins, the jury’s verdict confirmed Chapterhouse can continue to make and sell 111 products that Games Workshop hoped to block using copyright laws, and can continue to use 104 words and phrases that Games Workshop said were trademarked.

Imron Aly, lead trial attorney and partner in Winston & Strawn’s Chicago office added, “It was a pleasure to represent a small entrepreneur like Nicholas Villacci of Chapterhouse, who has a passion for his work and wanted to see his business survive.”

Julianne Hartzell, partner at co-counsel law firm Marshall Gerstein added, “We are proud that we were able to help protect Chapterhouse against the overreaching claims made by Games Workshop in such a substantial trademark and copyright dispute.”


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Re: Kickstarting Pastiche Heroquest Miniatures

Postby knightkrawler » June 18th, 2013, 1:30 pm

That basically confirms your statements earlier in this thread.
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Re: Kickstarting Pastiche Heroquest Miniatures

Postby Decipher » June 18th, 2013, 4:56 pm

chaoticprime wrote:I am not interested in pursuing this using multiple mediums of production. 3D printing miniatures is not the way to go with the Kickstarter. The miniatures that are printed off of them have to be molded and recast as a stronger material to be produced, anyway. I already have two sculptors waiting in the wings, one of whom learned his trade under the guy responsible for the original look of the GW Orc and Goblin. The other sculptor is Michael Brower, one of the more active sculptors working with Reaper Miniatures, who also happens to already be a big fan of HeroQuest.

Also, Decipher, if you cannot wait on a Minotaur, here is an auction for the Warhammer Quest/Talisman 3rd Ed Minotaurs: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-CLASSIC-PLAST ... 589b13b989

They look perfect alongside HQ stuff.


A Minotaur takes a back seat here.

What are we waiting for? What is the first figure thats going to be molded?


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Re: Kickstarting Pastiche Heroquest Miniatures

Postby Jewels! » June 18th, 2013, 5:08 pm

chaoticprime wrote:The jury deliberated for more than two days and found that Chapterhouse could continue to make and sell over a hundred products without fear of copyright infringement. The jury also confirmed that Chapterhouse could continue to use most of Games Workshop’s asserted trademarks when selling compatible parts, including all nine of Games Workshop’s registered trademarks. Together with the summary judgment wins, the jury’s verdict confirmed Chapterhouse can continue to make and sell 111 products that Games Workshop hoped to block using copyright laws, and can continue to use 104 words and phrases that Games Workshop said were trademarked.


This is big for the little guy :D


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Re: Kickstarting Pastiche Heroquest Miniatures

Postby chaoticprime » June 19th, 2013, 4:09 pm

A buddy of mine named Casey Christofferson, who is a game writer, has accepted the task of writing up a Quest for the Dwarf--for the Kickstarter. He has a background writing adventures with a very Norse/Nordic style, and created the Castles & Crusades Haunted Highlands setting.

Here is a list of his prior works.
http://index.rpg.net/display-search.pht ... stofferson


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Re: Kickstarting Pastiche Heroquest Miniatures

Postby Jewels! » June 19th, 2013, 4:24 pm

chaoticprime wrote:A buddy of mine named Casey Christofferson, who is a game writer, has accepted the task of writing up a Quest for the Dwarf--for the Kickstarter. He has a background writing adventures with a very Norse/Nordic style, and created the Castles & Crusades Haunted Highlands setting.

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I used to run a Norse-themed D&D campaign, so this is exciting to me. Also, you have the most interesting buddies.


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Re: Kickstarting Pastiche Heroquest Miniatures

Postby chaoticprime » June 19th, 2013, 4:26 pm

Jewels wrote:
chaoticprime wrote:A buddy of mine named Casey Christofferson, who is a game writer, has accepted the task of writing up a Quest for the Dwarf--for the Kickstarter. He has a background writing adventures with a very Norse/Nordic style, and created the Castles & Crusades Haunted Highlands setting.

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I used to run a Norse-themed D&D campaign, so this is exciting to me. Also, you have the most interesting buddies.


Once I got into the gaming business through my minis company and indie video game company, I started meeting lots of interesting people. I once got into a heated argument with Gary Gygax's son Luke over gun control.


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