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by **Kurgan** » March 23rd, 2025, 1:05 am

Thanks! I missed that one... good to know.

Edited by HispaZargon: due to topic similarity, all posts from new thread "question about wizard and dwarf quest packs" have been moved to this older thread. Post subjects have been re-titled accordingly.

I just had a question about the unreleased quest packs Luca and his team are working on. In the original order of quest packs where do you think the wizard and dwarf packs would fit in, in playing order?

by **Malcadon** » June 15th, 2025, 11:36 pm

My question is, what are the Dwarf/Wizard-specific Artifacts that raise their Body and Mind Points (2 and 1 respectfully, akin to the Amulet of the North and the Elven Bracers).

I can imagine a Dwarven Crown and a Wizard's Hat (to go with the Wizard's Cloak).

by **Lowery_79** » June 16th, 2025, 5:33 am

I'm sure we'll see that when Luca and his team release the wizard pack later this year I think they said.

by **manaknight14** » June 16th, 2025, 10:01 am

Lowery_79 wrote:I just had a question about the unreleased quest packs Luca and his team are working on. In the original order of quest packs where do you think the wizard and dwarf packs would fit in, in playing order?

Obviously there is some speculation here, but Luca indicated some work the team had done around measuring the difficulty of the unreleased packs. While all of the hero-specific expansions are considered quite difficult compared to other quest packs, Luca's intent was for these four packs to go through a gradual ramp-up of difficulty. He indicated the wizard expansion was probably the easiest pack and should be played first, followed by the dwarf pack (though its difficulty was tough to estimate because the original designs were incomplete), elf pack, and last of all the barbarian pack which is crazy hard. Of course Avalon Hill have already officially bucked this interpretation by putting Mage of the Mirror after Frozen Horror, but that may have been because Mage of the Mirror has an immediate "sequel" expansion in the form of Rise of the Dread Moon.

Malcadon wrote:My question is, what are the Dwarf/Wizard-specific Artifacts that raise their Body and Mind Points (2 and 1 respectfully, akin to the Amulet of the North and the Elven Bracers).

I can imagine a Dwarven Crown and a Wizard's Hat (to go with the Wizard's Cloak).

Luca shared a few images of sample cards from the wizard expansion, one of which was the wizard-specific +2BP/+1MP artifact. It wasn't a literal hat, but it was something worn on the head like a circlet. I haven't seen any indication what the dwarf's special artifact will be.

by **Lowery_79** » June 16th, 2025, 7:49 pm

Thank you both for chiming in to this question. Manakight14 thanks for the more in depth answer to both these questions.

by **lestodante** » June 18th, 2025, 1:40 pm

The four Hero Packs were not linked each other in any chronological way, neither their stories are linked (as it was for EQP and BQP).
According to Hispa's difficuly calculation, the WQP is the easiest one to play and for this reason, it is suggested to be played first.

by **Daedalus** » June 18th, 2025, 3:33 pm

I believe HispaZargon's difficulty predictor had also judged the WQP to be suitable to play after Against the Ogre Horde and Wizard's of Morcar, though it isn't necessary to do so. It should be very playable after Kellar's Keep and Return of the Witchlord, anyways.