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Heroquest remake by Hasbro - The BIG discussion thread

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Re: Heroquest remake by Hasbro - The BIG discussion thread

Postby Blayze » October 1st, 2021, 1:54 pm

perkypat123 wrote:Anyone found any UK shops with a placeholder for the Frozen Horror yet? Holding my breath…


Not yet; here's the list I've been keeping updated (went diving through both Google and Facebook for this):

https://www.reddit.com/r/Heroquest/comm ... y_country/

The best I can offer you so far is a bunch of EU countries that offer it, except spelonk.be (it's all or nothing with those guys).
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Re: Heroquest remake by Hasbro - The BIG discussion thread

Postby Kurgan » October 4th, 2021, 12:08 am

Just returned to civilization and I'm getting caught up on things. Wow, well the Frozen Horror will certainly need a lot of tweaking, but then again they could just release it as is, to the same level of shock US players got when they first played "Super Mario Bros. 2 Japan" (different than what we called "Super Mario 2" here, which was of course the Mario-ized Doki Doki Panic). Will be interesting...


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Re: Heroquest remake by Hasbro - The BIG discussion thread

Postby Blayze » October 4th, 2021, 5:45 am

So I've managed to dig up some interesting information in my trawling through the net.

The first is a website, http://www.quintadimensione.it, claiming that the base game--and so far only the base game--will be translated into Italian. They're selling pre-orders for the Italian version of the base game, and the English versions of Kellar's Keep and Return of the Witch Lord, all with a date of 15/01/22. A January date matches most of the other European country stores I've found so far, but this is the first one that's mentioned the 15th.

This might lend more support to the cosmicgames.it claim of an Italian-language version; so far, I've found nothing to support the French-language claim made by both autre-monde.be and some no-website shop called fulgurojouets; every other shop I've seen either specifies it's in English, or doesn't say either way.

The second is a handful of distribution websites, one for Canada, one for the US, and two for Australia (although one could also be for New Zealand, according to their own bio).
There's no expansion entries on any of them, but there are release dates for the base game on each, and they all seem to be for the retail release (one might not have been, but says "new solicitations week of 02/08/21" on it, which is months after the crowdfund ended, even more so given that's August and not February).

Check them out for yourselves if you want:

https://www.aiegames.com.au/product/her ... 11085.html
https://letsplaygames.com.au/heroquest- ... ier-219215
https://universaldist.com/item/detail/b ... 8712072c4c
https://www.acdd.com/heroquest.html

Both the Australian ones say February, but one specifies the first. Both the Canadian website (UniversalDist) and the US one (ACDD) say the first of November.

So far, I haven't found any Heroquest entry on a single European distribution website, and I looked at every Asmodee website I could find, which makes me think it's either in some area of the site plebs like myself can't get access to, or Asmodee are stuck in the past and you have to actually speak to them to order anything, which would make a lot of sense given how slow and awkward to use their websites seem to be, even if all you want to do is load a page.
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Re: Heroquest remake by Hasbro - The BIG discussion thread

Postby FainFlynn » October 4th, 2021, 9:15 am

I called Hasbro for something else, and asked about retail release. The hints I'm getting says there will be a retail release, but all extras given to Mythic Tier will not be sold, and are exclusive to the Mythic Tier backers. Wasn't sure if that included all of the Dragon quests, etc., but it sounded like it.
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Re: Heroquest remake by Hasbro - The BIG discussion thread

Postby Blayze » October 4th, 2021, 9:39 am

FainFlynn wrote:I called Hasbro for something else, and asked about retail release. The hints I'm getting says there will be a retail release, but all extras given to Mythic Tier will not be sold, and are exclusive to the Mythic Tier backers. Wasn't sure if that included all of the Dragon quests, etc., but it sounded like it.


I hope Hasbro make them available for sale; they could put the alternate sculpts in the expansions, for example.
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Re: Heroquest remake by Hasbro - The BIG discussion thread

Postby Kurgan » October 4th, 2021, 12:13 pm

Yeah I pretty much assumed all along that the Mythic Tier "unlocks" would be exclusive to the pledgers, just like the "limited edition" releases would only go to pledgers of any sort, and then the "Pulse exclusives" would be to the website. I don't like that idea of course, I would prefer that anything they create would be available to anyone who wants to buy it (and I don't just mean those willing to fork over for scalpers on ebay!). But that is the impression they've given all along. SOME stuff will only ever be for those who "backed" the campaign during that tiny fundraising window, hence would only be available to others via the re-sale aftermarket.

HeroQuest shouldn't be some kind of secret, elite thing that is only for a very select niche of nerdy adults with money to burn, it should be like it was back in the day, an attempt to be a mainstream dungeon crawler for the masses that was fun and easy to learn, which kind of requires it to be widely available. If a big portion of it is sealed off and only given to collectors (who may not even ever take it out of the packaging to actually play it with friends), then it's a waste, in my humble opinion and goes against the spirit of the original product. But companies will do what they want, I don't have to like it, but I suspect and fear they won't change that, though the only way to attempt to change it would be lots of fan backlash against keeping that stuff hidden and elite. The more of my friends who have a game means more opportunities for me to play it, as I see it, and that means more word of mouth to introduce it to others. I guess a couple of alternate sculpts of characters isn't that big a deal, but we're talking entire quests, that surely people will copy and distribute, whether Hasbro likes it or not, so they might as well sell them to all and make more buck. The "early backers" can still say they got it early, possibly at a discount. :2cents:

So the only "guarantee" if they release into retail, which all info seems to point to so far (would all these retailers really post misinformation based on rumor and wishful thinking only? that would be bad business for sure!) is that after the orders are fulfilled in the next month or so (assuming no delays), people could expect to be able to buy the Game System, Kellar's Keep and Return of the Witch Lord, and, maybe, if it's real, the Frozen Horror. The last one was never mentioned at all in the pledge campaign and the only hint that anything else would be coming out was the very careful and vague scripted answer in the Q&A video, that if people requested it maybe stuff like that would be looked into in the future.

I'm hopeful, but also skeptical at this point. I recall that lots of times stuff gets announced, or leaked or rumored, even getting posted to websites and then later gets cancelled (I'm thinking here of even pre-orders on Amazon.com). Until an official report comes from Hasbro, I would take it with a grain of salt, no matter how many gameshop pages post about it, that's my feeling now anyway. Why would they give them this info, knowing they would release it to the public, only to back out of it later? Who knows, but game companies like any corporation advertising their products (which is what this is, intentional or not) make mistakes, we've seen it happen before. It would be extremely odd for some countries outside the US (and not even the UK!) to get a formerly US exclusive expansion, with no mention of it at the NA base page, right?

So while more content is welcome (still waiting to see what changes would be made to it), I'm taking it with a grain of salt, but keep those reports coming in!


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Re: Heroquest remake by Hasbro - The BIG discussion thread

Postby cornixt » October 4th, 2021, 1:55 pm

It is far more damaging to call something exclusive and then go back on that. The promise that you are getting something rare is an extra kick to get people to put down their money in that short time window. Going back on that will make people not bother, just wait for it in the future.
Only a few things were actually stated as being exclusive to that Pulse event, and only that version of them - and none are essential to the game. This means they can make as many different Sir Ragnars as they like in the future, they just can't release one particular version of him again. Seems more traditional to use the Sorcerer to represent him anyway...

I think it is pretty clear there will probably be a retail release of the base game, although I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up as a Target exclusive for a year, or something like that. They are holding their cards close to their chest for some reason.


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Re: Heroquest remake by Hasbro - The BIG discussion thread

Postby Blayze » October 4th, 2021, 3:13 pm

cornixt wrote:They are holding their cards close to their chest for some reason.


That they are.

It's strange; our copies get sent out roughly around the time of PulseCon, and if the retail dates on the Canadian and US distribution websites are to be believed, also around the time of the retail release.
You'd think, therefore, that the event would be an ideal time for advertising and hype generation, and yet they've either chosen not to bother or are intentionally hiding the game's presence at the event for now.
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Re: Heroquest remake by Hasbro - The BIG discussion thread

Postby Kurgan » October 7th, 2021, 12:17 am

So we'll be unboxing it and providing free advertising for them...? Pretty much, but without a preview, we're trying to minimize buyer's remorse by providing the information to the curious, including those who may regret having pledged. Don't say you weren't warned!

People who want to buy it next month should know exactly what they'd be getting...


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Re: Heroquest remake by Hasbro - The BIG discussion thread

Postby cynthialee » October 7th, 2021, 11:25 am

if you are unhappy with the system, for what ever reasons, there will be plenty of people willing to buy it from you on eBay and likely for more than what you paid

is it really scalping if you sell the only copy you receive after you decide it isn't what you wanted? Not in my estimation. A scalper buys as many copies as he can to turn a fatty profit. A consumer is entitled to sell their own property at will.

These kickstarter versions will likely increase in value, especially if they are going to release the game commercially which it seems they will. Hell I wager in 10 years the unique to this release Sir Ragnar will be worth half the sets value alone.
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