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Quest 2: On Sacred Ground

PostPosted: Sunday November 4th, 2018 5:03pm
by wallydubbs
So i really wanted to establish the Female Elf and make her a close match for the male Elf; after barely surviving the first quest I was optimistic that the Elven Bracers would've helped... however +1 mind and +2 body points didn't seem to work. The Griabt Wolf in the hallway quickly mauled the Female Elf, she was no match.
I let my cousin try again with a different set of spells but, although he managed to get by the Giant Wolf the Choas Warrior in the next room killed him.

I'm becoming more convinced that this Elf Quest Pack was never playtested. There's no way an uneqipped Elf would survive the first 3 quests.

We gave it one more try, this time he used the Male Elf equipped with a Long Sword, Helmet, Sheild, Borin's Armor, the Fire Ring and all the gold and potions acquired from the Original Quest System and Keller's Keep... even then the Elf ran through 2 potions of Healing and Water of Healing, but he still made it.
Just the same these first 3 solo quests can't be accomplished by an elf from scratch. This quest will need to be modified as well. I'm open to suggestions.

Re: Quest 2: On Sacred Ground

PostPosted: Monday November 5th, 2018 12:58pm
by The Admiral
Yep, both the Elf and Barbarian quest pack solo quests are virtually impossible with a basic character. Even an experienced solo character will struggle. We played both sets of solo quests with an experienced Elf/Barbarian accompanied by a new Female Elf/Barbarian. Another way to go would be to try them with four basic characters.

Re: Quest 2: On Sacred Ground

PostPosted: Monday November 5th, 2018 3:36pm
by wallydubbs
The Admiral wrote:Yep, both the Elf and Barbarian quest pack solo quests are virtually impossible with a basic character. Even an experienced solo character will struggle. We played both sets of solo quests with an experienced Elf/Barbarian accompanied by a new Female Elf/Barbarian. Another way to go would be to try them with four basic characters.

Thank you! One giant wolf is bad enough, he/she can't possibly beat 2 unaided. This is why I'm thinking this game was never playtested.

If I can get my Quest Book map maker to work on my computer I'd post an adequately revised solo quests that I think would work.

Re: Quest 2: On Sacred Ground

PostPosted: Monday November 5th, 2018 5:32pm
by Pancho
I think the expansions are intended for heroes that have already grown very powerful from previous adventures. The solo quests are no exception to this.
Taking on the likes of Zaranth, Sinestra, Dirgrust clan ogres and so forth are not missions to be taken lightly.

Re: Quest 2: On Sacred Ground

PostPosted: Tuesday November 6th, 2018 7:32am
by wallydubbs
Pancho wrote:I think the expansions are intended for heroes that have already grown very powerful from previous adventures. The solo quests are no exception to this.
Taking on the likes of Zaranth, Sinestra, Dirgrust clan ogres and so forth are not missions to be taken lightly.

You would think that, yes. But the instructions within the Quest booklet says:
1. The Quests
The first 3 quests are solo adventures, designed for play by an elf alone. These can be used as an introduction to HeroQuest for a new player or as fun quests to play when only two players are available. Also, if a new Elf is to join a party of experienced characters, these three quests will enable the Elf to catch up to the other Heroes by gaining gold, equipment and magical items.

This last sentence sort of implies the Female Elf will be starting from scratch.

Re: Quest 2: On Sacred Ground

PostPosted: Tuesday November 6th, 2018 2:56pm
by The Admiral
wallydubbs wrote:If I can get my Quest Book map maker to work on my computer I'd post an adequately revised solo quests that I think would work.


I'd really like to see those if you get them done.

Re: Quest 2: On Sacred Ground

PostPosted: Tuesday November 6th, 2018 3:04pm
by The Admiral
wallydubbs wrote:
Pancho wrote:I think the expansions are intended for heroes that have already grown very powerful from previous adventures. The solo quests are no exception to this.
Taking on the likes of Zaranth, Sinestra, Dirgrust clan ogres and so forth are not missions to be taken lightly.

You would think that, yes. But the instructions within the Quest booklet says:
1. The Quests
The first 3 quests are solo adventures, designed for play by an elf alone. These can be used as an introduction to HeroQuest for a new player or as fun quests to play when only two players are available. Also, if a new Elf is to join a party of experienced characters, these three quests will enable the Elf to catch up to the other Heroes by gaining gold, equipment and magical items.

This last sentence sort of implies the Female Elf will be starting from scratch.


Yep, that's what it says....but it's complete nonsense!

Re: Quest 2: On Sacred Ground

PostPosted: Wednesday November 7th, 2018 8:16am
by wallydubbs
The Admiral wrote:
wallydubbs wrote:Also, if a new Elf is to join a party of experienced characters, these three quests will enable the Elf to catch up to the other Heroes by gaining gold, equipment and magical items.

This last sentence sort of implies the Female Elf will be starting from scratch.


Yep, that's what it says....but it's complete nonsense!


Again, this is why I can't bring myself to believe that this expansion was ever playtested. It did come out in North America, so it's almost half expected that they put little to no forethought into it.

Re: Quest 2: On Sacred Ground

PostPosted: Wednesday November 7th, 2018 3:32pm
by The Admiral
wallydubbs wrote:Again, this is why I can't bring myself to believe that this expansion was ever playtested. It did come out in North America, so it's almost half expected that they put little to no forethought into it.


I'm sure your hypothesis is correct. I'm not sure about your conclusion though?

Re: Quest 2: On Sacred Ground

PostPosted: Wednesday November 7th, 2018 8:06pm
by j_dean80
I think the sales were dropping so they threw out an untested pack. Has nothing to do with "location".