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Chaos Warlock icon - fan made or original?

PostPosted: August 2nd, 2022, 9:57 am
by Kurgan
Since I didn't grow up with the EU quests, I kind of picked up and sort of assumed that the familiar "chaos warlock" icon was part of the game. But it doesn't appear in the GS, ROTWL, KK, EQP, BQP or even the Adventure Design Kit.

But now I'm starting to wonder if it's, as on Elvyler's page, a fan made creation combining the Skeleton face icon with the Chaos Warrior helmet design into one. So who created it? I see it's part of HeroScribe's archives but I can't quite see any author information (having trouble installing it properly in win 11).

The original scans of Wizards of Morcar and Against the Ogre Horde aren't on the main page, only fan recreations, so I was curious if page 14 of WOM really shows such an icon at letter A or if it's just the note.

Thanks in advance for anyone who knows!

I see in the remake the hunt is on for a high quality version of the Dread Sorcerer icon (which only appears in New Beginnings, a quest that doesn't use high res vector graphics, and of course in the Mythic exclusive Crypt of Perpetual Darkness that has never been publicly released in digital format, though various people have tried to scan it, and that it's legit for this forum obviously). Elvyler's article posted the highest res version of it I'd seen so far... but again that's the remake version.

Re: Chaos Warlock icon - fan made or original?

PostPosted: August 2nd, 2022, 10:26 am
by j_dean80
Go to yeoldeinn.com then click English. From there you can see the original scans for AtOH and WoM.

Re: Chaos Warlock icon - fan made or original?

PostPosted: August 2nd, 2022, 11:06 am
by cornixt
j_dean80 wrote:Go to yeoldeinn.com

Hmm, never heard of it.

Re: Chaos Warlock icon - fan made or original?

PostPosted: August 2nd, 2022, 12:56 pm
by Kurgan
Ah, sometimes I forget about using the flags for navigating the page. So as HeroScribe explains, the icon first appeared in 1996 in the fanzine "Adventures Unlimited" for the fanmade quest "The Inn of Chaos." The original was black and white.

Re: Chaos Warlock icon - fan made or original?

PostPosted: August 2nd, 2022, 6:52 pm
by lestodante
The Chaos Warlock icon, as the Dwarf icon also, does NOT appear in any of the questbook.
There is also a second Chaos Warlock icon, created by Decipher, by vectorizing the head of the sorcerer from a picture in the sticker album. It can be found in his map template.

There isn't a Dwarf icon in any of the Hero Quest books.
The icon you see is copyright of Luis Bermudez (a.k.a. Wolf): he kindly created it for HeroScribe.
Many thanks to him!

Re: Chaos Warlock icon - fan made or original?

PostPosted: February 20th, 2025, 1:43 pm
by Kurgan
That Dwarf icon is so well done, I never would have guessed it was fan-created!

Re: Chaos Warlock icon - fan made or original?

PostPosted: February 23rd, 2025, 12:52 pm
by Zenithfleet
On a semi-related topic, I was interested to see that at the back of the old NA questbook, the Chaos Warlock is included with the other monsters (with the artwork and the descriptions of the creatures). Is that a 'proper' piece of artwork, or is it a photo/tracing of the Chaos Sorcerer miniature done to look vaguely arty? I can't quite tell.

Those pictures are monochrome, but all the other monsters had full-colour artwork on the monster cards, so I'm curious whether the Chaos Warlock/Sorcerer also had a full-colour Gary Chalk portrait that was never used in the EU game and only appeared in monochrome in the NA questbook.

By the way, that miniature is usually called the Chaos Sorcerer in the EU game, not the Chaos Warlock. (Occasionally he's called the Evil Sorcerer, such as in 'The Rescue of Sir Ragnar'.)

Re: Chaos Warlock icon - fan made or original?

PostPosted: February 23rd, 2025, 6:31 pm
by Daedalus
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Interesting observation. I'm not aware of any original Chalk art, so I'd say your guess that the monochrome image was worked from the miniature is correct.

Re: Chaos Warlock icon - fan made or original?

PostPosted: February 25th, 2025, 7:31 pm
by HispaZargon
Good catch, guys. Never realized before!

Re: Chaos Warlock icon - fan made or original?

PostPosted: February 26th, 2025, 2:45 pm
by wallydubbs
In Crypt of the Necromancer there's a statue of a Chaos Warlock that shoots fireballs down the hillway. I'd play it as a statue of the Witch Lord, as I'd imagine the Necromancer would idolize him.