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Game System versions comparison

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Game System versions comparison

Postby Cael Darkhollow » Sunday November 7th, 2021 9:57pm

GAME BOARD size comparison old board on top.
left side and bottom are aligned
but that leaves gap along the top and significant extra on the right side for the new larger board.
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GAME SCREENS comparisons:
2021 HeroQuest North American version Hasbro/Avalon Hill left side vertical 1st photo, right top 2nd and 3rd photos. slightly smaller than originals.
1990 HeroQuest North American version Milton Bradley/Games Workshop right bottom all photos. MONSTER stats on back.
1989 HeroQuest Game System UK Milton Bradley/Games Workshop UK versions don't have monster stats or body points but instead show furniture map symbols on back
1991 Hero Quest Advanced Quest Edition (The Dark Company) UK UK versions don't have monster stats or body points but instead show furniture map symbols on back
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CHARACTER SHEET pad comparisons Left to right:
2021 HeroQuest North American version Hasbro/Avalon Hill
1990 HeroQuest North American version Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
1989 HeroQuest Game System UK Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
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DICE vintage dice that are heavily used will often have art worn off the white dice. Vintage dice have shaved off corners so not true cubes.
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Left to right furniture comparisons:
2021 HeroQuest North American version Hasbro/Avalon Hill
1989 HeroQuest Game System UK Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
1990 HeroQuest North American version Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
The candle lengths on the new SORCERER'S TABLE are different lengths, and the new version is all one piece rubbery plastic, It is nearly the same size and it is about the same height as the UK short table (slightly taller) while the card bottomed U.S. table is much taller. New table has the drawers of the U.S. version. Candles are removable on the vintage versions and often broken on the tips.
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Left to right furniture comparisons:
2021 HeroQuest North American version Hasbro/Avalon Hill
1989 HeroQuest Game System UK Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
1990 HeroQuest North American version Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
new WEAPONS RACK is shorter and smaller, not as long as the vintage version, made of flexible material like the figures rather than the hard plastic of the original. Major sculpt differences most immediately noticeable on the shield. Both vintage versions are identical.
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Left to right furniture comparisons:
2021 HeroQuest North American version Hasbro/Avalon Hill
1989 HeroQuest Game System UK Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
1990 HeroQuest North American version Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
ALCHEMIST'S BENCH new version is all one piece rubbery plastic, similar in size to the vintage versions. Both vintage versions are identical, with removable reversible bottles, (rat or skull option peg hole), cardboard base and loose scale.
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Left to right furniture comparisons:
2021 HeroQuest North American version Hasbro/Avalon Hill
1989 HeroQuest Game System UK Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
1990 HeroQuest North American version Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
FIRE PLACE New is similar in size to old. The old is two piece cardboard and plastic stand. The cardboard often is bent at the top because it is taller than the box lid and gets crushed if not laid flat. Both vintage versions identical.
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Left to right furniture comparisons:
2021 HeroQuest North American version Hasbro/Avalon Hill
1989 HeroQuest Game System UK Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
1990 HeroQuest North American version Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
(TORTURE) RACK New is totally different. Vintage racks are four parts, the arms are removable and can be adjusted to different angles, cardboard base.(rat or skull option peg hole.) Both vintage versions are identical.
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Left to right furniture comparisons:
2021 HeroQuest North American version Hasbro/Avalon Hill
1989 HeroQuest Game System UK Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
1990 HeroQuest North American version Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
DOORS Completely new designs for the doors, base game comes with rubbery plastic open doors. ***new closed plastic BROWN "wooden" door is only available in the quest packs NOT the main game system.**** THIS WILL SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT GAMEPLAY WITHOUT MULTIPLE CLOSED DOORS IN THE MAIN GAME SYSTEM!!! SEE EDIT BELOW, THE MAIN GAME DOES COME WITH 5 CLOSED GRAY DOORS. i DIDN'T SEE THEM FOR FIRST PHOTO UK version vintage doors are slightly shorter and often have centering issues with the cut out off center with the door art. Vintage doors otherwise identical two-parts cardboard folding insert with plastic bases. Often the cardboard is bent because they are taller than the game box lid so if not laid flat will be crushed.
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NEVERMIND I LIED THE MAIN GAME SYSTEM DOES COME WITH 5 CLOSED DOORS
I NEVER NOTICED THEM AS THEY ARE SO TIGHT IN THE TRAY.

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Left to right furniture comparisons:
2021 HeroQuest North American version Hasbro/Avalon Hill
1989 HeroQuest Game System UK Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
1990 HeroQuest North American version Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
TABLES AND TOMBS New table is noticeably smaller one piece rubbery plastic and has clawed feet. Old tables have cardboard centers with plastic sides and connecting rod underneath.
New design for the tomb with opening removable lid and figure in armor including helm, similar in size to vintage versions which are identical with cardboard bases.
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Left to right furniture comparisons:
2021 HeroQuest North American version Hasbro/Avalon Hill
1989 HeroQuest Game System UK Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
1990 HeroQuest North American version Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
TREASURE CHESTS New is similar in size to old versions. Vintage have cardboard and plastic parts. UK version often has centering issues with art off center on cardboard.
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Left to right furniture comparisons:
1989 HeroQuest Game System UK Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
1990 HeroQuest North American version Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
BOOKCASE #1 New version has only one bookcase type so this one is not represented. Identical vintage versions come with two rat or skull peg hole options on top.
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Left to right furniture comparisons:
2021 HeroQuest North American version Hasbro/Avalon Hill
1989 HeroQuest Game System UK Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
1990 HeroQuest North American version Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
BOOKCASE #2 New version has only one bookcase type that is smaller and narrower than originals. Loose rats and skulls available to decorate. Identical vintage versions come with two rat or skull peg hole options on top.
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Left to right furniture comparisons:
2021 HeroQuest North American version Hasbro/Avalon Hill
1989 HeroQuest Game System UK Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
1990 HeroQuest North American version Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
CUPBOARD new one is shorter, narrower, and smaller than the vintage versions. Loose rats and skulls available to decorate. Identical vintage versions come with two rat or skull peg hole options on top.
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Left to right furniture comparisons:
2021 HeroQuest North American version Hasbro/Avalon Hill
1989 HeroQuest Game System UK Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
1990 HeroQuest North American version Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
THRONE New Throne is similar in size to old versions. Vintage have folded cardboard center and plastic side parts and connecting rod underneath . UK version often has centering issues with art off center on cardboard.
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RAT AND SKULL DECORATIONS Vintage rats and skulls are hard plastic and have pegs to insert into furniture. rat-tails are extremely fragile and often broken off. UK version skulls are pale off white while U.S. versions are yellowish crème color. The new rats and skulls are loose made of soft plastic, there are new animal and monster skulls
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Re: Game System versions comparison

Postby Cael Darkhollow » Sunday November 7th, 2021 9:59pm

Left to right HeroQuest Game System FIGURES versions comparisons:
I prefer the older sculpts in every single case, but the new figures aren't bad, just not my preferred aesthetic.
New figures are softer pliant rubbery plastic easily warped. Vintage figures are hard plastic easily broken if crushed or stepped on.
Vintage figures have large cartoon-like heads, hands and feet that gives them a unique charisma iconic to early games Workshop miniatures. The Hasbro figures have corrected smaller heads and hands (but in some cases not feet) more accurate to true human scaled proportions but are still superhero comic book style unrealistic proportioned. UK versions have extra lip step on the base. I have heard that in later years runs of vintage HeroQuest figures had factory blunted rounded off weapons but I don't own any like that and cannot confirm. The new 2021 HQ Game System release includes female characters and monsters for many of the figure types. Most are only available in the MYTHIC TIER expansions as a reward to backers, although the female orcs, female goblins, and female elf come in the base game system set. I swapped the male elf from the Mythic set for the comparison photos as the vintage base game elf was male. As the vintage HeroQuest base game system boxed set included no female figures no side by side comparisons can be made here with the new female figures. Vintage female figures were available for some characters in the NA only released Barbarian and Elf Quest Packs later renamed The Frozen Horror and The Mage of the Mirror.

Left to right male BARBARIAN comparisons:
2021 HeroQuest North American version Hasbro/Avalon Hill
1989 HeroQuest Game System UK Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
1990 HeroQuest North American version Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
The new Barbarian figure is significantly taller and more detailed. Base is similar size to the old but thicker.
UK version has extra lip on base.
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Left to right male ELF comparisons:
2021 HeroQuest North American version Hasbro/Avalon Hill
1989 HeroQuest Game System UK Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
1990 HeroQuest North American version Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
The new Elf figure is significantly taller and more detailed. Base is similar size to the old but thicker.
UK version has extra lip on base.
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Left to right male WIZARD comparisons:
2021 HeroQuest North American version Hasbro/Avalon Hill
1989 HeroQuest Game System UK Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
1990 HeroQuest North American version Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
The new Wizard figure is significantly taller and more detailed. Base is similar size to the old but thicker.
UK version has extra lip on base.
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Left to right male DWARF comparisons:
2021 HeroQuest North American version Hasbro/Avalon Hill
1989 HeroQuest Game System UK Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
1990 HeroQuest North American version Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
The new Dwarf figure is significantly taller and more detailed. Base is similar size to the old but thicker.
UK version has extra lip on base.
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Left to right male MUMMY comparisons:
2021 HeroQuest North American version Hasbro/Avalon Hill
1989 HeroQuest Game System UK Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
1990 HeroQuest North American version Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
The new MUMMY figure is significantly taller and more detailed. Base is similar size to the old but thicker.
UK version has extra lip on base and are pale off-white colored, U.S. versions are yellowish white.
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Left to right male ZOMBIE comparisons:
2021 HeroQuest North American version Hasbro/Avalon Hill
1989 HeroQuest Game System UK Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
1990 HeroQuest North American version Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
The new ZOMBIE figure is significantly taller and more detailed. Base is similar size to the old but thicker.
UK version has extra lip on base and are pale off-white colored, U.S. versions are yellowish white.
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Left to right male SKELETON comparisons:
2021 HeroQuest North American version Hasbro/Avalon Hill
1989 HeroQuest Game System UK Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
1990 HeroQuest North American version Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
The new SKELETON figure is significantly taller and more detailed and obviously wears armor. Base is similar size to the old but thicker.
UK version has extra lip on base and are pale off-white colored, U.S. versions are yellowish white.
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Left to right male GOBLIN comparisons:
2021 HeroQuest North American version Hasbro/Avalon Hill
1989 HeroQuest Game System UK Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
1990 HeroQuest North American version Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
The new GOBLIN figure is significantly taller and more detailed. Base is similar size to the old but thicker.
UK version has extra lip on base.
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Left to right male ORC comparisons:
2021 HeroQuest North American version Hasbro/Avalon Hill
1989 HeroQuest Game System UK Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
1990 HeroQuest North American version Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
The new ORC figure is significantly taller and more detailed. Base is similar size to the old but thicker.
UK version has extra lip on base.
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Left to right male FIMIR/ABOMINATION comparisons:
2021 HeroQuest North American version Hasbro/Avalon Hill
1989 HeroQuest Game System UK Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
1990 HeroQuest North American version Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
The new ABOMINATION figure is significantly taller and more detailed. Base is similar size to the old but thicker.
The FIMIR is a Games Workshop creation and their intellectual property and so was replaced in the new Avalon Hill/Hasbro version by ABOMINATIONS.
UK version has extra lip on base.
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Left to right male DREAD WARRIOR/CHAOS WARRIOR comparisons:
2021 HeroQuest North American version Hasbro/Avalon Hill
1989 HeroQuest Game System UK Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
1990 HeroQuest North American version Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
The new DREAD WARRIOR figure is significantly taller and more detailed. Base is similar size to the old but thicker.
UK version has extra lip on base. CHAOS was replaced by DREAD for the 2021 Hasbro edition because Games Workshop had no involvement.
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Left to right male DREAD SORCERER/EVIL SORCERER/CHAOS WARLOCK comparisons:
2021 HeroQuest North American version Hasbro/Avalon Hill
1989 HeroQuest Game System UK Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
1990 HeroQuest North American version Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
The new DREAD SORCERER figure is significantly taller and more detailed. Originally called EVIL SORCERER in the UK version, the name was changed to CHAOS WARLOCK for the U.S. release to better fit in with CHAOS WARRIORS and the CHAOS threat to the forces of GOOD in the WARHAMMER world. CHAOS was replaced by DREAD for the 2021 Hasbro edition because Games Workshop had no involvement. This figure not only represents evil spell casters in the base game but also any random NPC the heroes might encounter as a substitute figure. Base is similar size to the old but thicker.
UK version has extra lip on base.
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Left to right male GARGOYLE comparisons:
2021 HeroQuest North American version Hasbro/Avalon Hill
1989 HeroQuest Game System UK Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
1990 HeroQuest North American version Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
The new GARGOYLE figure is significantly taller and more detailed. Base is similar size to the old but thicker.
UK version has extra lip on base.
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SIR RAGNAR, MENTOR, HIRED MERCENARIES/DARK COMPANY
The Advanced Quest Edition of the HeroQuest Game System released in 1991 only in the UK included 12 mercenary figures with removable weapons in red plastic (although the box showed light gray prototypes) along with a bonus Advanced Quest called the Dark Company. The mercenary figures would be rereleased in Wizards of Morcar Quest Pack (occasionally in black instead of red plastic) and with the Barbarian Quest Pack (in dark gray plastic. )
The 2021 edition Mythic Tier Expansion finally gave us a Sir Ragnar figure (which was/is mentioned only in the base game system, represented instead by the Chaos Warlock/Evil Sorcerer figure) and MENTOR and ZARGON figures (which again were/are only mentioned in the base game. The Mentor figure can used as a player character wizard instead)
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Re: Game System versions comparison

Postby Cael Darkhollow » Sunday November 7th, 2021 10:00pm

CARD COMPARISONS OF DIFFERENT VERSIONS IN THE GAME SYSTEM
HERE ARE ALL THE CARDS FOR THE HEROQUEST GAME SYSTEM
1989 HeroQuest Game System UK Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
1989 Kellar's Keep UK
1989 Return of the Witch Lord UK (later same year as KK)
1991 Wizards of Morcar UK
(Australia and Europe release dates were later for the same products)
1990 HeroQuest Game System North American version Milton Bradley/Games Workshop
1991 Kellar's Keep North American version
1991 Return of the Witch Lord North American version (released same time as KK in NA)
1992 Barbarian Quest Pack (The Frozen Horror) NA exclusive
1992 Elf Quest Pack [later rereleased as Quest Pack for the Elf] (The Mage of the Mirror) NA exclusive. released at the same time as Barbarian Quest Pack
2021 HeroQuest North American version Hasbro/Avalon Hill
UK cards are smaller and have white or brown borders on the back, NA cards lack the border, HASBRO cards have a black border on back.
UK original edition on left, U.S. edition center, HASBRO on right
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Card types include MONSTER STAT CARDS, NPC STAT CARDS, TREASURE CARDS, EQUIPMENT CARDS, ARTIFACT CARDS, SPELL CARDS, CHARACTER CARDS, TURN INSTRUCTION CARDS

CHARACTER CARDS and GAME PLAY INFO CARDS FRONT
UK original edition on BOTTOM (tall thick cardboard)
U.S. edition CENTER shorter (thick cardboard)
HASBRO on TOP much smaller and thinner than the previous versions they are the same as the regular game playing cards. Includes female gender options for the main four characters, and Mythic tier character player options
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CHARACTER CARDS and GAME PLAY INFO CARDS BACK
UK character cards are blank on the reverse, U.S. cards have turn instructions, reverse of the Hasbro cards have the character introduction that is on the front of the other versions, and has separate turn instruction cards
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MONSTER STAT CARDS and MERCENARY STAT CARDS BACK
UK version on the left, MEN-AT-ARMS (mercenary for hire) cards and MONSTER cards (red).
U.S. version center, MONSTER cards black and white. Mercenaries were included in the Barbarian Quest Pack on the MONSTER STAT cards for the U.S. version
Hasbro version on the right, color demon.
The monster on the back of the vintage version of the MONSTER STAT CARDS has long been a source of speculation as well as the similar art on the wandering monster card in the treasure deck. No monster resembling them is in the HeroQuest game, but Minotaurs and Beastmen were in Advanced HeroQuest and Warhammer, and either monster could fit the basic furry horned depictions on those cards. The new release MONSTER card could depict a demon or possibly the gargoyle, a new mystery monster unclarified...
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MONSTER STAT CARDS and MERCENARY STAT CARDS FRONT
UK version on the top, MEN-AT-ARMS (mercenary for hire) cards and MONSTER cards
U.S. version center rows, MONSTER cards
Hasbro version on the bottom, MONSTER cards
The basic 8 monsters remain mostly the same through all versions, GOBLIN, ORC, FIMIR*, SKELETON, ZOMBIE, MUMMY, CHAOS WARRIOR*, GARGOYLE.
*Although the HASBRO 2021 remake has CHAOS WARRIOR replaced by DREAD WARRIOR and FIMIR replaced by ABOMINATIONS because both are recognizable intellectual property (unsure if trademarked) of Games Workshop, the company that collaborated with Milton Bradley on the original game but had no involvement in the remake. Milton Bradley is now owned by Hasbro.
The MEN-AT-ARMS cards were included in the WIZARDS OF MORCAR expansion (1991 Europe release only) and included four types: THE CROSSBOWMAN, THE SCOUT, THE SWORDSMAN, THE HALBERDIER as mercenary for hire non player characters or sometimes as foes, and the same four types were listed as Dark Company enemies with no cards (stats in the quest book) in the Hero Quest Advanced Quest Edition Game System (The Dark Company, 1991 Europe/AUS release only). Four types of OGRES (Ogre Warrior, Ogre Champion, Ogre Chieftain, Ogre Lord) had their cards printed on the back of the quest book for AGAINST THE OGRE HORDE expansion (1990 Europe/AUS release only) but didn't get actual MONSTER cards.
The U.S. release had the same four mercenary types on MONSTER stat cards included in the Barbarian Quest Pack (1992 NA release only.)
The BARBARIAN QUEST PACK(1992 NA release only) included cards for monsters specific to those quests: ICE GREMLIN, YETI, POLAR WAR BEAR and FROZEN HORROR.
the ELF QUEST PACK (1992 NA release only) included cards for monsters and allies sometimes used as foes: ELVEN WARRIOR, ELVEN ARCHER, GIANT WOLF, and OGRE.
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TREASURE CARDS BACK
UK version on the left
U.S. version center
Hasbro version on the right
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TREASURE CARDS FRONT
UK version top three rows
U.S. version 2nd from bottom row
Hasbro version on the bottom
The UK version had many treasure cards with slightly different text but similar outcome that the U.S. and Hasbro versions consolidated, and a card stating you found nothing. The top row of treasure cards were released in the WIZARDS OF MORCAR expansion (1991 Europe release only)
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TREASURE CARDS continued
the BARBARIAN QUEST PACK(1992 NA release only) included treasure cards introduced in those quests for the U.S. version: POISON, POTION OF MAGIC RESISTANCE, POTION OF WARMTH
the ELF QUEST PACK (1992 NA release only) included TREASURE cards introduced in those quests for the U.S. version: AIR WALK, ELVEN CLOAK OF PASSAGE, TREASURE HOARD, WOLFSBANE POTION.
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ARTIFACT CARDS BACK
UK version on the left
U.S. version center, smaller cards could be cut out off the back of the quest book covers of the 1991 Kellar's Keep North American version and 1991 Return of the Witch Lord North American version (released same time as KK in NA)
Hasbro version on the right
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ARTIFACT CARDS FRONT
UK version on the top left only had five cards: BORIN'S ARMOUR, ORC BANE, TALISMAN OF LORE, SPIRIT BLADE, WAND OF RECALL
U.S. version 3rd row center are the base game cards, the top row are from the ELF QUEST PACK (1992 NA release only), the second row are from the BARBARIAN QUEST PACK(1992 NA release only), smaller cards could be cut out off the back of the quest book covers of the 1991 Kellar's Keep North American version and 1991 Return of the Witch Lord North American version (released same time as KK in NA)
Hasbro version on the bottom two rows. Bottom row are mythic tier expansion releases.
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EQUIPMENT CARDS AND ARMORY INSERT
UK version on the left
U.S. version did not have equipment cards instead had an ARMORY insert in the game box that could be visited before and after quests as a shop to make equipment purchases. An ALCHEMIST'S SHOP was included in the quest packs where potions could be purchased.
Hasbro version on the right went back to equipment cards.
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EQUIPMENT CARDS FRONT
UK version top two rows
Hasbro version bottom three rows
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ARTIFACT CARDS and EQUIPMENT CARDS KK and ROTWL
Return of the Witch lord top set
Keller's Keep cards bottom set
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SPELL CARDS
UK version on the top and center left
U.S. version center right
Hasbro version on the bottom
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ELEMENTAL PLAYER SPELL CARDS
UK game system player SPELL cards on the top
U.S. game system player SPELL cards center
Hasbro game system player SPELL cards on the bottom
All three release versions are the same spells:
3 AIR spells (SWIFT WIND, GENIE, TEMPEST) that can be chosen by the Elf or WIZARD player
3 EARTH spells (HEAL BODY, PASS THROUGH ROCK, ROCK SKIN) that can be chosen by the Elf or WIZARD player
3 WATER spells (WATER OF HEALING, SLEEP, VEIL OF MIST) that can be chosen by the Elf or WIZARD player
3 FIRE spells (BALL OF FLAME, COURAGE, FIRE OF WRATH) that can be chosen by the Elf or WIZARD player
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CHAOS/DREAD SPELL CARDS
U.S. expansion packs CHAOS SPELL cards on the top left side from the 1992 Barbarian Quest Pack (The Frozen Horror) NA exclusive
top right side from the 1992 Elf Quest Pack [later rereleased as Quest Pack for the Elf] (The Mage of the Mirror) NA exclusive. released at the same time as Barbarian Quest Pack
U.S. game system CHAOS SPELL cards center
Hasbro game system DREAD SPELL cards on the bottom
UK version of HeroQuest base game system did not have spell cards for MORCAR's evil forces to use, the evil magic users used the same spells as the players or had their spells described in the Quest books and a few spells released as cardboard tiles in the AGAINST THE OGRE HORDE expansion (1990 Europe/AUS release only)
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SPECIALIST MAGIC USER SPELL CARDS
U.S. expansion pack ELF SPELL cards for use only by the ELF player character were included in the 1992 Elf Quest Pack [later rereleased as Quest Pack for the Elf] (The Mage of the Mirror) NA exclusive.
Hasbro SPECIALIST SPELL cards specific to certain Mythic tier player characters on the bottom
UK version smaller cards with white borders on top two rows were included in the WIZARDS OF MORCAR expansion (1991 Europe release only)
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SPECIALIST MAGIC USER SPELL CARDS
U.S. expansion pack ELF SPELL cards for use only by the ELF player character were included in the 1992 Elf Quest Pack [later rereleased as Quest Pack for the Elf] (The Mage of the Mirror) NA exclusive on second row up from bottom.
Hasbro SPECIALIST SPELL cards specific to certain Mythic tier player characters on the bottom
UK version smaller cards on top three rows were included in the WIZARDS OF MORCAR expansion (1991 Europe release only)
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By Crom I'll split you crown to crotch to see if your guts are yellow as I think they are nithing BARBARIAN Ulrich
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Re: Game System versions comparison

Postby HispaZargon » Tuesday November 9th, 2021 4:22pm

Excellent comparison work, Cael Darkhollow! Thank so much.


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Re: Game System versions comparison

Postby Kurgan » Tuesday November 9th, 2021 4:37pm

Where is the boot?

I bet you could line up the equipment cards and print out a sheet to paste onto that white cardboard to create a new "Armory" ;)

I see Mentor has the familiar "Mentor eye" symbol on his copy of Loretome. I think you could edit the image to put the "Zargon pumpkin skull" symbol on the book and make him into Zargon. They could be twins!

So no significant rule changes noted in the Rulebook. The "Sea of Claws" is now called the "Sea of Talons."


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Re: Game System versions comparison

Postby Daedalus » Wednesday November 10th, 2021 12:45am

I'd say editing in the game screens after the gameboards would make this topic even more awesome.

Kurgan wrote:. . . I see Mentor has the familiar "Mentor eye" symbol on his copy of Loretome.. . .

Inspect Mentor's figure Check out Mentor's Hero Card and you can see he also wears a matching medallion. I'd call the symbol the an Eye of Lore. That would make the pumpkin skull Zargon's a Dread Mask.
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Re: Game System versions comparison

Postby Lothar » Wednesday November 10th, 2021 10:48am

The new Handaxe card doesn't restrict the Wizard, which I can only assume is an oversight.
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Re: Game System versions comparison

Postby HispaZargon » Wednesday November 10th, 2021 10:51am

Lothar wrote:The new Handaxe card doesn't restrict the Wizard, which I can only assume is an oversight.

I agree, it should be considered an errata in my opinion, I will also add it in the dedicated thread.


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Re: Game System versions comparison

Postby Daedalus » Thursday November 11th, 2021 7:49am

Lothar wrote:The new Handaxe card doesn't restrict the Wizard, which I can only assume is an oversight.

Or is it? Other items new to the NA rules are not restricted to the Wizard that add a buff. There also are the Bracers (+1 DD), the Crown of Shadows (+1DD), and the Phantom Blade (no defense.) The 2 AD Hand ax might be part of a larger effort to power up the Wizard's combat ability and have something to spend gold coins on. Would that be a bad thing?
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Re: Game System versions comparison

Postby HispaZargon » Thursday November 11th, 2021 9:26am

Daedalus wrote:
Lothar wrote:The new Handaxe card doesn't restrict the Wizard, which I can only assume is an oversight.

Or is it? Other items new to the NA rules are not restricted to the Wizard that add a buff. There also are the Bracers (+1 DD), the Crown of Shadows (+1DD), and the Phantom Blade (no defense.) The 2 AD Hand ax might be part of a larger effort to power up the Wizard's combat ability and have something to spend gold coins on. Would that be a bad thing?

Hi, of course you could be right and maybe that was the Hasbro intention but I think it is difficult to accept seeing a Wizard allowed to use a 2 AD axe and at the same time not allowed to use a 2 AD sword... for my perception such rule sucks a little bit and goes so far from the typical image most of us has about what a fantasy Wizard uses to be, that's the reason I think this rule is more close to an errata that a whish from designers. Weapons like Phantom Blade may be more naturally acceptable for a Wizard since they are magical, but the handaxe is not. Anyway discussion is quite open, I hope an official FAQs from Hasbro could clarify it some day.


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