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Re: Inappropriate Figures

Postby tasoe » August 1st, 2015, 7:00 pm

Maybe I am wrong on this one, and maybe I'll change my mind some time in the future. But telling me to read up on sexist marketing isn't a solution. I don't need to read up on that. You could help me out a lot more if you explained to me where you feel I'm wrong.

If someone advertises a beer with a sexy lady it's because it WILL sell more beer. That's a fact. Why is it happening? Women drink beer too, but men drink a lot more. So we'll give them a sexy lady to attact their interest. What's so wrong about that?


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Re: Inappropriate Figures

Postby cynthialee » August 1st, 2015, 8:41 pm

tasoe wrote:Maybe I am wrong on this one, and maybe I'll change my mind some time in the future. But telling me to read up on sexist marketing isn't a solution. I don't need to read up on that. You could help me out a lot more if you explained to me where you feel I'm wrong.

If someone advertises a beer with a sexy lady it's because it WILL sell more beer. That's a fact. Why is it happening? Women drink beer too, but men drink a lot more. So we'll give them a sexy lady to attact their interest. What's so wrong about that?

The problem becomes when marketing ceases to market to women and niche into a male only market. We don't see beer commercials aimed at women, because more men drink beer than women drink beer. So the assumption became societally that women do not drink beer, so marketing devises a marketing plan to sell more aggressively to men solely. Which feeds further into the women don't drink beer false meme. Yet if we look at the figures we find that women drink 25% of the beer. http://drinkfocus.com/beer/women-and-beer/
Now if we hadn't have pigeon holed beer as a 'man drink' would that number be higher? I suggest it would be.
Are 25% of the beer commercials aimed at women? No. Why? Because 'women don't drink beer'. But that is demonstrably false.
Marketing is run by a bunch of folks with outdated ideas that never were very good to begin with.
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Re: Inappropriate Figures

Postby Dyreme » August 2nd, 2015, 12:19 am

Thantos, thank you for the thoughtful response. I am very appreciative that the intention of my post seems to be generally understood. While some folks decided to turn the post into one of sexualization and marketing, my initial query and concern had more to do with confusion over the products connection to Heroquest and this website. That was cleared up and I greatly appreciate the concern over making sure the site has an Not Safe For Work section if needed. Again, beautiful figures, incredibly well made and for anyone who wants to buy them, enjoy. As for me, I like my Heroquest the good old fashioned way where the only naked characters are skeletons. :skeleton:
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Re: Inappropriate Figures

Postby Anderas » August 2nd, 2015, 2:29 am

Now are the skeletons naked women or naked men? Did anyone ever count the ribs? :mrgreen:


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Re: Inappropriate Figures

Postby TMU » August 2nd, 2015, 4:31 am

Dyreme wrote:While some folks decided to turn the post into one of sexualization and marketing, my initial query and concern had more to do with confusion over the products connection to Heroquest and this website.

Happens here all the time. Most of the threads get sidetracked at some point. So better get used to it ;)
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Re: Inappropriate Figures

Postby knightkrawler » August 2nd, 2015, 8:00 am

This has been a discussion which was at no point "sidetracked".
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Re: Inappropriate Figures

Postby whitebeard » August 2nd, 2015, 8:03 am

knightkrawler wrote:This has been a discussion which was at no point "sidetracked".


At least until we started arguing about whether or not it was sidetracked. |_P
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Re: Inappropriate Figures

Postby TMU » August 2nd, 2015, 9:15 am

knightkrawler wrote:This has been a discussion which was at no point "sidetracked".

Just in general, mr. Derailer ;)
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Re: Inappropriate Figures

Postby cynthialee » August 2nd, 2015, 10:32 am

Dyreme wrote:Thantos, thank you for the thoughtful response. I am very appreciative that the intention of my post seems to be generally understood. While some folks decided to turn the post into one of sexualization and marketing, my initial query and concern had more to do with confusion over the products connection to Heroquest and this website. That was cleared up and I greatly appreciate the concern over making sure the site has an Not Safe For Work section if needed. Again, beautiful figures, incredibly well made and for anyone who wants to buy them, enjoy. As for me, I like my Heroquest the good old fashioned way where the only naked characters are skeletons. :skeleton:


Oh baloney! You came in clutching pearls and asking 'what of the children'.
You started in with the moralizing, we just joined in on a different angle.
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Re: Inappropriate Figures

Postby knightkrawler » August 2nd, 2015, 11:38 am

whitebeard wrote:
knightkrawler wrote:This has been a discussion which was at no point "sidetracked".


At least until we started arguing about whether or not it was sidetracked. |_P


Well, that is funny. |_P

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knightkrawler wrote:This has been a discussion which was at no point "sidetracked".

Just in general, mr. Derailer ;)


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Dyreme wrote:Thantos, thank you for the thoughtful response. I am very appreciative that the intention of my post seems to be generally understood. While some folks decided to turn the post into one of sexualization and marketing, my initial query and concern had more to do with confusion over the products connection to Heroquest and this website. That was cleared up and I greatly appreciate the concern over making sure the site has an Not Safe For Work section if needed. Again, beautiful figures, incredibly well made and for anyone who wants to buy them, enjoy. As for me, I like my Heroquest the good old fashioned way where the only naked characters are skeletons. :skeleton:


Oh baloney! You came in clutching pearls and asking 'what of the children'.
You started in with the moralizing, we just joined in on a different angle.


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