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Re: Funny Picture

Postby IvenBach » October 20th, 2013, 10:44 am

Something like this?
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Re: Funny Picture

Postby Big Bene » October 20th, 2013, 12:39 pm

chaoticprime wrote:They [hot, cold, dry and wet] are not accidents, they're properties--properties of a substance.

Well, as properties that are directly detectable by the senses, I would normally have thought they are accidents (like taste or color), but if you say Aristotle labeled them as substantial, it may very well be so. I'll just take your word for it, I don't remember and am too lazy to resaerch it now.
But still, they are not elements.
chaoticprime wrote:Aether was also once regarded as an immaterial element that filled up the Kaos (unordered space--the atmosphere & outer-space) thus bringing about daylight. The sun was a corollary--it only came out when it was daytime

But that is not part of the classical four element lore or of the mainstream alchemy that developed from it. Of course when you include every obscure source someone worte sometime, can find practically any idea.
chaoticprime wrote:Aether and Akasha or Void are the same in that they represent what is immaterial, the only difference is that in the latter cases that also means non-existent.

But this is a very important difference. Aether and Akashs are very real substances in their respective philosophical systems. They are the matter of what is eternal and unchanging, as opposed to the matter of the earthly nature wich is ever-changing and, in the end, perishable. It is not immaterial, and certainly not to be confused with the void.
chaoticprime wrote:Planar actually refers to a metaphysical plane--a fourth dimensional wave existence that is the origin of consciousness (according to some hillbillys).
Well, maybe, but this is pretty far from classic alchemistic lore. See above.
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Re: Funny Picture

Postby torilen » October 20th, 2013, 1:48 pm

You know, I thought it was a cute picture and would go great with the
magic system that HQ portrays. You guys have turned this into a science class...
I"M LEAVING! You guys have to ruin everything.

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Re: Funny Picture

Postby Big Bene » October 20th, 2013, 6:23 pm

torilen wrote:You guys have turned this into a science class...

Think twice before feeding the nerds...
Well, didn't want to ruin this for anyone. Still love the picture.
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Re: Funny Picture

Postby torilen » October 20th, 2013, 6:53 pm

Just in case - that was sarcasm, by the by. :)


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Re: Funny Picture

Postby IvenBach » October 20th, 2013, 6:57 pm

It seems someone is easily offended by wombat pictures... Well another of life's lesson learned.

GK is that your interpretation of GW manufacturing HQ? Seems proper if so. Just needs a space marine inside of a space marine instead of a robot.


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Re: Funny Picture

Postby chaoticprime » October 20th, 2013, 7:00 pm

Big Bene wrote:
chaoticprime wrote:They [hot, cold, dry and wet] are not accidents, they're properties--properties of a substance.

Well, as properties that are directly detectable by the senses, I would normally have thought they are accidents (like taste or color), but if you say Aristotle labeled them as substantial, it may very well be so. I'll just take your word for it, I don't remember and am too lazy to resaerch it now.
But still, they are not elements.
chaoticprime wrote:Aether was also once regarded as an immaterial element that filled up the Kaos (unordered space--the atmosphere & outer-space) thus bringing about daylight. The sun was a corollary--it only came out when it was daytime

But that is not part of the classical four element lore or of the mainstream alchemy that developed from it. Of course when you include every obscure source someone worte sometime, can find practically any idea.
chaoticprime wrote:Aether and Akasha or Void are the same in that they represent what is immaterial, the only difference is that in the latter cases that also means non-existent.

But this is a very important difference. Aether and Akashs are very real substances in their respective philosophical systems. They are the matter of what is eternal and unchanging, as opposed to the matter of the earthly nature wich is ever-changing and, in the end, perishable. It is not immaterial, and certainly not to be confused with the void.
chaoticprime wrote:Planar actually refers to a metaphysical plane--a fourth dimensional wave existence that is the origin of consciousness (according to some hillbillys).
Well, maybe, but this is pretty far from classic alchemistic lore. See above.


The point you are missing, was the suggestion that can be analogs to real entries of the periodic table. The entire point of this was to pigeon-hole more entries. If you want to really get technical, none of the four classical elements even come close to being actual elements. They're not even presented periodically, because the four of them were proposed at the same time.


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Re: Funny Picture

Postby chaoticprime » October 20th, 2013, 7:03 pm

This reply is to everyone that keeps calling that animal a wombat. Its not a wombat. Its a bad joke. I referenced a "Quark," which is a component of subatomic particles. The animal I showed was a "Quokka." They're another denizen of the hellish Cabinet-of-Curiosities that is Australian fauna. Get it?


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Re: Funny Picture

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