Heroquest remake by Hasbro - The BIG discussion thread

[Kurgan]

I think the EU style beveled bases looked the best (EQP and BQP minis has them too). They were rounded squares but bigger figures turned them into hexagons (you can tell if you look closely).

[Orc26]

It looks like they are going to reprint the doors+bases don't fit problem of OriginalQuest, so it doesn't matter if the bases are circular or rectangular... they still won't fit in cramped quarters.

[Kurgan]

Forgive me but, what's OriginalQuest?

[Goblin-King]

100% disagree. Round bases may be "standard" in popular miniatures today, but squares bases are still widely available. Reaper sells them, every major game shop (that was still open before Covid19) carried them. It's not like they would have to climb Mt. Doom to forge new ones. Its true that "Facing the enemy" doesn't matter at all in this game, but that also means there's no need to have the ability to "rotate" the character. Square bases fit the squares on the board. They could have done a "circles" board, but they didn't. Anyway, it's not a huge deal, but again, a nod to the original that would have required zero effort and zero extra cost.

We don't have nostalgia for the prototypes because nobody had them all these years to play with outside of Gamesworkshop designers.

While I agree that the round bases are easier to add stuff into the game, I’m not sold that using the older square bases is bad. Especially with the potential options from Zealot miniatures and their square plastic bases. I’m actually considering stocking up on some of the Zealot Miniature bases to convert the hasbro version to square classic style. Or creating my own with thick plasticard. (Though that would mean base conversions... so there is that ... and they wouldn’t align with either the old plastic square GW bases, or the newer circular style. Decisions, decisions.)

My point wasn't so much round vs squares, but more against the specific original HQ-bases with the bevel (or whatever that little step is called).
While I do prefer round bases, I would have been okay with square bases, as long as they'd fit within the board's squares (which the god damn original bases couldn't even manage )
But there's really no reason to create unique bases that are so hard to come by. Thantos is a cool dude and I love Zealot Miniatures; but the fact that one small 3rd party company sells these, isn't exactly what I would call widely available.

I agree they look very cool. Awesome, even. However the actual spells are pretty weak sauce compared to what we see. Ball of Flame, the strongest fire spell, has a chance to do up to 2 Body Points of damage, which doesn't kill a Chaos Warrior (3 Body Points). Yet the images show these Elementals, not just standing there looking menacing, but toppling buildings, destroying towns, crushing castles, etc. It would be like an image of the Barbarian cutting a watchtower in half with his broadsword or the Wizard blowing up a mansion with his staff... looks cool but way out of the scale of power of the actual gameplay. In other words it's not "I play 'Summon Godzilla' " rather "I toss a little fireball that does some damage about like a standard attack against a foe that's below my own level."

I don't think the elemental card backs are meant to represent the actual spells you cast as a player. They represent the primal elemental forces you draw your magic from.
Like a cleric in D&D drawing powers from his god - but he obviously won't be as powerful AS a god.

[Kurgan]

My point wasn't so much round vs squares, but more against the specific original HQ-bases with the bevel (or whatever that little step is called).
While I do prefer round bases, I would have been okay with square bases, as long as they'd fit within the board's squares (which the god damn original bases couldn't even manage )

The bases fit. The only time you'd notice a problem is if you lined up a bunch of miniatures all in a tiny room, then they'd seem a bit crowded. The new bases seem only scaled up, so you may still have the same "problem" as before.

But there's really no reason to create unique bases that are so hard to come by. Thantos is a cool dude and I love Zealot Miniatures; but the fact that one small 3rd party company sells these, isn't exactly what I would call widely available.

But that's the thing, they're not hard to come by. Tell me, is this a "small third party company"? I don't know what region you're in, but I've never set foot into a game shop (the kind that sells card sleeves, green stuff and paint for miniatures, not just comics) that DIDN'T carry Reaper products. Yes, I think my local game shop "stopped carrying square bases" a year or two ago (before covid19), but the website didn't go away, and they told me "just order it online." We're not talking some obscure guy on ebay or some 3D printed product. So I don't buy this excuse.

I don't think the elemental card backs are meant to represent the actual spells you cast as a player. They represent the primal elemental forces you draw your magic from.
Like a cleric in D&D drawing powers from his god - but he obviously won't be as powerful AS a god.

Fair point. They'll inspire the same kind of wonder that the old cards did. "Okay cool, but how do I get what's going on in the picture?" No big deal.

What I see the overall theme in the new art is exaggeration. Everything is bigger, spikier, larger, flashier, etc. In the old set only "Chaos" spells showed something that looked way over the top (are those planets exploding?)

[Orc26]

Names according to Orc26

OriginalQuest = Qriginal HeroQuest
RipoffQuest = Game Zone 25th anniversary HeroQuest
HasbroQuest = ReprintQuest = Thing this tread is all about.

[Leathaface79]

Names according to Orc26

OriginalQuest = Qriginal HeroQuest
RipoffQuest = Game Zone 25th anniversary HeroQuest
HasbroQuest = ReprintQuest = Thing this tread is all about.

[Kurgan]

I prefer Classic HeroQuest and Remake HeroQuest. But HasbroQuest does have a nice ring to it. You can call it a bastardization, but as far as remakes go, not a lot has changed, just the visual look, and yes I agree the visual look is very important, but the gameplay is unchanged, and it will be as moddable as our Classic HeroQuest.

I resist the dichotomy though that you're either bashing the whole thing ("being negative") if you have any criticisms, or else you have to love it (and buy two copies for yourself and one more... "just in case").

Bottom line: I didn't ask for this and I haven't pledged. But as a long-time fan of the original (and active mod-maker) I can still evaluate and speak my mind in public about it and it doesn't have to be 100% positive. That doesn't make me a hater. I approve this message.

And I would say there's nothing wrong with being a "hater" of this new product. There's no rule in fandom that says you have to love or support everything with the brand logo on it. Let's not forget that...

The funding goal has been reached, so no amount of "negative" speech will stop anyone from getting their product next year. That's all in Hasbro's hands...

[Oftkilted]

While I agree that the round bases are easier to add stuff into the game, I’m not sold that using the older square bases is bad. Especially with the potential options from Zealot miniatures and their square plastic bases. I’m actually considering stocking up on some of the Zealot Miniature bases to convert the hasbro version to square classic style. Or creating my own with thick plasticard. (Though that would mean base conversions... so there is that ... and they wouldn’t align with either the old plastic square GW bases, or the newer circular style. Decisions, decisions.)

My point wasn't so much round vs squares, but more against the specific original HQ-bases with the bevel (or whatever that little step is called).
While I do prefer round bases, I would have been okay with square bases, as long as they'd fit within the board's squares (which the god damn original bases couldn't even manage )
But there's really no reason to create unique bases that are so hard to come by. Thantos is a cool dude and I love Zealot Miniatures; but the fact that one small 3rd party company sells these, isn't exactly what I would call widely available.

Alternately there are 3D printable options. And you can find them on Shapeways and Thingiverse.

I’m still conflicted about the bases personally. I like the look and style of the square bases, they are closer to the Warhammer Quest which is my starting point. Though I have a crazy number of Age of Sigmar and Warhammer Fantasy Battles miniatures on a combination of square and circular bases. But if dealing with base to base contact isn’t an issue it is definitely a tough call for me. I suppose that it’s slightly leaning towards circular, as that would be one less base issue to deal with. And with a board game the base itself is not anywhere near as much of an issue.

[Orc26]

I'm sorry if my silly naming convention came across as negative for non Gamezone products. (The negative connotation of RipoffQuest was intentional). The others were just me putting words in front of Quest that had a similarity to what they are.