Heroquest remake by Hasbro - The BIG discussion thread

[Orc26]

I guess I just assumed The Spirit Queen's Torment (and the druid) are yet unreleased stretch goals.
Am I the only uncultured swine who didn't know any of the guest designer's names other than Mr. Baker?

[benvoliothefirst]

I guess I just assumed The Spirit Queen's Torment (and the druid) are yet unreleased stretch goals.
Am I the only uncultured swine who didn't know any of the guest designer's names other than Mr. Baker?

Same here.

[Kurgan]

I'm grateful for the community here, so much better than the Facebook HeroQuest group (which won't even approve my request to join)! This won't harm the community and I'm glad of that, after so many franchises have been ruined or divided due to "new stuff" this is a breath of fresh air. Good luck. But they really need to release in other countries and in regular stores...

[Pancho]

I'm grateful for the community here, so much better than the Facebook HeroQuest group (which won't even approve my request to join)! This won't harm the community and I'm glad of that, after so many franchises have been ruined or divided due to "new stuff" this is a breath of fresh air. Good luck. But they really need to release in other countries and in regular stores...

Nah I don’t think there will be a great schism like what happened to Star Wars fans etc. There will just be some folks playing with the old minis, and some with the new. The game itself will be exactly the same, and we might get some great new content from reinvigorating the game. Increasing the number of people playing can only be a good thing.
I was a bit scathing of the release in earlier posts, but I’m really glad that a lot of people are happy with yesterdays developments. I shouldn’t even be bitter about there not being a UK release as to be honest, I’ve already got too much HQ stuff!
If I only get to one day see the new Steve Baker quest pack, then I’ll be very happy

[Kurgan]

There’s nothing to interest me here really, except one thing, and that’s a real biggy; a brand new official HQ quest book from Steve Baker himself

The new miniatures and art are unfortunately incompatible with what most of us already own, the style does nothing for me. I’d pass on all of it even if I lived in the US, but the new quest pack alone is massive cause for celebration. This shouldn’t be overlooked because even us fans living outside the US will be able to get hold of it, by hook or by crook.

Stephen Baker's questbook The Profecy of Telor is a stretch goal to 2 Million USD!
I am one of the guys who is very disappointed with the new miniatures style!
Artworks are ok but still not as good as the original ones.

I was looking forward to seeing your take on all this. Seems pretty similar to mine.
I allowed myself to get excited when some of the black and white art was leaked, but overall the new aesthetic is almost completely incompatible with the old stuff. I’d definitely keep the board and the dice, and probably use the doors and furniture, but send the minis straight to ebay. The weapons especially are too silly, and break the immersion in the game for me. Old school fantasy had a realism that the new mini designers just don’t get.

But saying that, there does seem to be a real divergence with the new colour art and the black and white stuff. The colour art continues the cartoony theme, but I think people like you could make really good use of the B & W images. What I have seen of that so far looks compatible with our games.

2 million for the Prophecy of Telor stretch goal looks achievable I think. Even if it isn’t, Baker has already written the quest pack, so I can’t imagine it would go completely to waste. I think enthusiasts like us will see it somewhere down the line, we might just have to be patient.

Great insights. I would say though that with classic Hero Quest (is that what we'll have to call it now?) there are two art styles... the "realistic" art that appears on the covers of the box and manuals, and on the Hero cardboard plates and the "cartoony" (comic book?) art that appears on the card faces (and the backs of the Wizards of Morcar cards). The UK original used line drawings/comic book style images for the cardbacks, while the US (NA) version had a more "realistic" style like an oil painting (example: treasure cards, spell cards, artifacts, etc; both still used the lithograph style Monster image). A simple mixture of artwork itself isn't the problem, but aesthetics are subjective. I agree that there was a certain amount of realism in old HQ, even though it was also stylized (the big heads/hands of the miniatures for example), while the new miniatures seem going for a more realistic style in terms of bodies (with obvious exceptions like the goblins), but exaggerated, anime/video game style weapons. The Fish Men ("Abominations") look cool, but I'd rather have Fimirs, or at least generic Lizard Men or trolls (or ogres!).

Price-wise, I think the two "Expansion Packs" are a great deal, $25 apiece (when you break it down) is awesome. We're talking about a new quest book, a few cardboard tiles and a pile of extra minis (including two plastic doors). If I hadn't already spent a small fortune on classic Hero Quest and custom stuff, I might consider getting it, even though it looks cool, I still prefer the classic style.

Short of just reprinting the old sets from 89/91, this is probably the best we could expect, other than color coding the models and including the EU localization (the original, I should say!).

[elvyler]

I'm grateful for the community here, so much better than the Facebook HeroQuest group (which won't even approve my request to join)! This won't harm the community and I'm glad of that, after so many franchises have been ruined or divided due to "new stuff" this is a breath of fresh air. Good luck. But they really need to release in other countries and in regular stores...

Nah I don’t think there will be a great schism like what happened to Star Wars fans etc. There will just be some folks playing with the old minis, and some with the new. The game itself will be exactly the same, and we might get some great new content from reinvigorating the game. Increasing the number of people playing can only be a good thing.
I was a bit scathing of the release in earlier posts, but I’m really glad that a lot of people are happy with yesterdays developments. I shouldn’t even be bitter about there not being a UK release as to be honest, I’ve already got too much HQ stuff!
If I only get to one day see the new Steve Baker quest pack, then I’ll be very happy

I'm not worried about a divide, when I mentioned schism earlier it was just my stupid sarcasm coming to the surface. I love the old stuff, I'm excited for the new stuff, and I'm happy to be part of a great community. My short time at the inn has been the longest I've ever participated in an online community, and it's been a great experience.

[lestodante]

Am I the only uncultured swine who didn't know any of the guest designer's names other than Mr. Baker?

I found some infos on them:

Teos Abadia - freelance game designer who has contributed to several Wizards of the Coast products, including adventures for the Living Forgotten Realms and Vault of the Dracolich.
https://alphastream.org/index.php/about-and-contact/

Nikki Dawes - Illustrator (Freelance, Wizards of the Coast: D&D)
https://twitter.com/nikkidawesdraws

Shauna Nakasone (freelance illustrator and Vinyl toy customizer)
https://twitter.com/flyingsciurus

[BStewart80]

I know some have complained about the design of the minis, but I think they're fine. When you think about it, most of us were 9-12 (maybe older) when the original game came out. It was magic to us. Nostalgia is great and I will be pleased, despite the fact that I have rebuilt my game from the ground up over the past 2 years (that's another story).

The minis reflect a modern element of design and that is okay. It actually makes it easier to shop for additional minis to add to the game without having to find the right balance between old and new designs. Now the new minis on the market will blend quite seamlessly and you can replace until your heart is content. If you take my meaning. I mean, look at these on Etsy and you will see what I am talking about (as an example): https://www.etsy.com/shop/TableTopTrade ... ge=4#items

I will always love and appreciate the original game for what joy it has been for me and will continue to be. I have many memories with friends and family. I hope this new version will be the same for the next generation and that they will remember as fondly. For those that have young ones, play with them as I do. Build memories. You can talk about the old days, but live like the best days are ahead, not behind.

Paint, plan, build and play. It's all fun.

"I hate waiting" - Inigo Montoya..."...prepare to die"

[Kurgan]

Ha! Yeah, anybody saying there is a real "schism" coming is trolling or paranoid. Sorry I misread your sarcasm.

If somebody doesn't want this, it doesn't harm me at all! If I hate it and somebody else loves it, my life is unchanged. We've all seen the fund-raising progress. I personally didn't contribute a dime (I don't join kick starters for products as a rule). Even if had decided to bash the project from now until "Fall 2021" it would still get released and people will still enjoy it. I'm relieved they didn't ruin it, and it is still theoretically compatible. Again, it could have been a lot worse. Many franchises have been "updated" in very controversial ways that have indeed led to divided communities and people getting bent out of shape, so thank goodness that's not happening here.

People on social media (which is a bad place to be these days it seems) seem to be making a big deal about this, and I agree, it's silly.

Regarding the price, I hate to say it, but they COULD make another adjustment to what I call the "normie" version of HeroQuest. Instead of these super detailed minis, they could just include 2d, cardboard standup minis and sell it at a bargain price (maybe include a coupon for the 3d minis in each box for those who want to send away for some or all of them). Since these days they cost more, they could do that and drive down the price for the "casual" player. Yeah, the 3d minis are a big part of the experience, but having a $100-150 price tag IS going to stop a lot of people from buying Hero Quest that might otherwise be willing to try it and become a life-long fan...

It's like:
Oh, you want to buy Monopoly? Well too bad, your only option is the Deluxe Set with solid wood, velvet lined board, 24K gold tokens and crystal dice. No cheaper version for casual players curious to try something new... !

ZombieCide did it, right? Cheap basic version anyone can get into, nothing more to buy... BUT option to get the special parts to trick it out and go full on hardcore hobbyist geek...

And yeah, UK gamers, don't pay $300+ for this only to have the real version come out 2 years from now or something. I like the idea of trustworthy people here buying extra copies and shipping at cost to our friends across the pond.

[elvyler]

Honestly I'm happy with the price. It's pretty fair. If you look at what you would have paid for the original back in 1989 plus those two expansions, then add today's inflation, the price makes sense.

What I can't wrap my head around is the cost of shipping. To ship where I live is going to be $120, that's just for the base set. I recently backed a different project that is set to ship this month, it has over 300 mini's and includes a board game, and an expansion. The shipping for that was about half the price of what Hasbro is asking.