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Re: Plate Armour

Postby Redav » June 16th, 2015, 7:10 pm

Gee, drathe might need to add Plate Armour to this list;

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Re: Plate Armour

Postby cynthialee » June 16th, 2015, 7:58 pm

OK just shut me down.
Fine.

and you wonder why it is a sausage fest in gamer town
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Re: Plate Armour

Postby Gold Bearer » June 16th, 2015, 8:39 pm

cynthialee wrote:OK just shut me down.
Fine.

and you wonder why it is a sausage fest in gamer town
Would you rather we tipped toed around you and never disagreed with you just because you happen to be a woman?

Some forum members already do. You should be glad we're not all that old fashioned and close minded.

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Re: Plate Armour

Postby cynthialee » June 16th, 2015, 8:56 pm

No I expect to be treated with the same respect you afford the males in the group.
I expect to have my feelings respected when I state implicitly that I feel belittled.

I expect you to be men, not vindictive boys.
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Re: Plate Armour

Postby cynthialee » June 16th, 2015, 9:02 pm

As for on topic:

I have conceded that I can accept a penalty to a dice roll for movement but a complete dice penalty is too severe.

Talking it out with one of my gamers after explaining the movement penalty for the benefit of an extra dice they wouldn't buy the armor. I wouldn't either. No one wants the suit with such a high penalty. Roll a string of 1, 2 and 3 for movement and the armor is almost useless.
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Re: Plate Armour

Postby Gold Bearer » June 16th, 2015, 9:16 pm

cynthialee wrote:No I expect to be treated with the same respect you afford the males in the group.
I expect to have my feelings respected when I state implicitly that I feel belittled.

I expect you to be men, not vindictive boys.
You haven't been treated any differently because you're a woman! Grow up and stop playing the sexism card just because people happen to disagree, it's really annoying.

cynthialee wrote:As for on topic:

I have conceded that I can accept a penalty to a dice roll for movement but a complete dice penalty is too severe.

Talking it out with one of my gamers after explaining the movement penalty for the benefit of an extra dice they wouldn't buy the armor. I wouldn't either. No one wants the suit with such a high penalty. Roll a string of 1, 2 and 3 for movement and the armor is almost useless.
It depends on how you play. If there's no kind of random events then they could just move freely when there's no monsters on the board, there's no point in rolling dice.

Redav wrote:And I've just noticed that drathe sets the forum to auto-correct his user name's capitalisation :lol:
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Re: Plate Armour

Postby Redav » June 16th, 2015, 9:47 pm

I always felt the movement penalty was too high and found no one ever buys it because of that (as opposed to the cost). I don't disagree with a moment penalty which reflects that the wearer is encumbered (carrying weight, movements are more taxing and movement range is slightly more restrictive), but I'd probably apply a cap of 8 or 9 squares as 12 and 11 don't statistically roll that often so won't be missed so while you can't roll the large numbers, you can still get the average rolls of 5 - 7 squares.
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Re: Plate Armour

Postby Count Mohawk » June 16th, 2015, 10:29 pm

Redav wrote:I always felt the movement penalty was too high and found no one ever buys it because of that (as opposed to the cost). I don't disagree with a moment penalty which reflects that the wearer is encumbered (carrying weight, movements are more taxing and movement range is slightly more restrictive), but I'd probably apply a cap of 8 or 9 squares as 12 and 11 don't statistically roll that often so won't be missed so while you can't roll the large numbers, you can still get the average rolls of 5 - 7 squares.

There's an idea I haven't seen before! If you cap a normal set of 2 dice to 8 (or, more generally, you can only roll a maximum of 4 per red die), you end up with an average movement roll of 6, while also avoiding a pluponderance of very low rolls as would happen in the straight subtraction method. I think I'll be changing my armory to reflect this way of thinking.

...In theory this would be an excellent opportunity to bust out some d4s. However, most d4s are shaped like caltrops and have roughly the same amount of aesthetic appeal. If only someone would invent a d4 that actually rolls!


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Re: Plate Armour

Postby cynthialee » June 16th, 2015, 11:03 pm

Count Mohawk wrote:
Redav wrote: If only someone would invent a d4 that actually rolls!

Your wish is granted. They have D4's in the Crystal Dice set's.

http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywor ... jsp5na3c_b
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Re: Plate Armour

Postby cynthialee » June 16th, 2015, 11:09 pm

I could accept 2D4 movement or
2D6-2 minimum of 1 point of movement or
2D6 Max of 9

But as it stands, I just do not see a person wanting plate, unless the entire party was in plate. Otherwise you are going to often fail to catch up to the battles thus defeating the reason for the armor in the first place. Unless you have players waiting for you to catch up, but in a board game scenario I don't see it happening often. {If I can defeat the monsters and get a free action to loot before you show up any special treasures are mine...}
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