Ye Olde Inn

by **Kurgan** » August 13th, 2021, 7:21 pm

So then no point in drinking heroic brew if you're going to hit some Orcs with the Orc's bane. Otherwise you could see a loophole, where you get to attack Orc A twice, then adjacent Orc B twice.

Orc's Bane + Heroic Brew = 4 attacks against an Orc. Might be a bit of an overkill for a regular Orc, but it might work wonders against the Orc Shaman.

But anyhow, i was talking smack about the Orc Bard in another forum and now this gets me to think... if the Chaos Warrior in Bastion of Chaos (perhaps now Bastion of Dread) has Orc's Bane (as is done in the traditional Game system) and someone is playing as the Orc Bard (though i have no idea why someone would do such a thing), would said Chaos/Dread Warrior be allowed to attack the Bard twice?

by **Kurgan** » August 14th, 2021, 11:38 am

Good point, although if someone homebrews him to be a "half orc" (halvork?) he'd only get 2 attacks, maybe. It's a new frontier!

by **Daedalus** » August 14th, 2021, 2:49 pm

wallydubbs wrote:. . . But anyhow, i was talking smack about the Orc Bard in another forum and now this gets me to think... if the Chaos Warrior in Bastion of Chaos (perhaps now Bastion of Dread) has Orc's Bane (as is done in the traditional Game system) and someone is playing as the Orc Bard (though i have no idea why someone would do such a thing), would said Chaos/Dread Warrior be allowed to attack the Bard twice?

Monsters are only supposed.to roll their Attack Dice value regardless of the Weapon used, so rules as written--no. That said, I'd say a special Quest treasure/artifact is a specific case that overrides the general rule. He could opt to roll two Attack Dice twice for a total of four AD. The Orc Bard only gets to defend once according to BQP rules, but twice with the Game System rules--your choice.

Playing the EU rules, attacking the Orc Bard with Orc's Bane twice might give some advantage over the standard 3 AD, but not a lot since the Bard defends each attack separately. Playing the NA rules, attacking with Orc's Bane adds no advantage. In fact, if just the Game System rules are used and the Bard defends each attack separately, he is actually handicapping himself since his standard 4 AD is only defended once.