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Removing Monsters from the Board

Postby ChuckyMcNorris » Saturday July 18th, 2020 1:39am

When playing Zargon, does anyone remove monsters from the board when they are out of site of a hero and track their movement in the quest book? Thoughts on doing this?
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Re: Removing Monsters from the Board

Postby lestodante » Saturday July 18th, 2020 6:39am

Teorically the Heroes are not seeing the monsters anymore so they don't know their position. But no, I didn't remove their figures except it is a Chaos Sorcerer using an Escape spell.


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Re: Removing Monsters from the Board

Postby Gold Bearer » Saturday July 18th, 2020 7:02am

I did it for p-b-p and it worked really well. I'd probably do it for regular games too now, it makes sense and adds something cool to the game with no down side.
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Re: Removing Monsters from the Board

Postby juiceboxB » Saturday July 18th, 2020 5:57pm

I remove mine. I also "move" them based on their movement squares after the last hero's turn that way I can have them attack a hero when they round a corner and see them again.
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Re: Removing Monsters from the Board

Postby Jalapenotrellis » Saturday July 18th, 2020 8:28pm

No because most monsters don't have ranged attacks and won't get a chance to attack if they run especially once all 3 heroes can use a crossbow. In this game, Zargon needs to maximize the number of attacks he can get to do the most damage. Most also only have 1 bp.
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Re: Removing Monsters from the Board

Postby ChuckyMcNorris » Sunday July 19th, 2020 3:36pm

Yeah, my thinking is the same as juicebox. Especially if I may not have any hope of causing any real damage early in the quest but if I can catch the weakened heroes on their way back to the staircase it can be a nice little surprise.
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Re: Removing Monsters from the Board

Postby Maldeev1911 » Sunday July 19th, 2020 3:48pm

No I typically don't remove them, but it is an interesting idea.
I like it!
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Re: Removing Monsters from the Board

Postby Gold Bearer » Sunday July 19th, 2020 4:57pm

It's works really well, it's probably the best house rule there is in terms of doing the most with the least.

Jalapenotrellis wrote:No because most monsters don't have ranged attacks and won't get a chance to attack if they run especially once all 3 heroes can use a crossbow. In this game, Zargon needs to maximize the number of attacks he can get to do the most damage. Most also only have 1 bp.
That's all the more reason to move them out of sight, so they don't get shot before they can attack.
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Re: Removing Monsters from the Board

Postby Daedalus » Monday March 1st, 2021 10:17am

ChuckyMcNorris wrote:When playing Zargon, does anyone remove monsters from the board when they are out of site of a hero and track their movement in the quest book? Thoughts on doing this?

Removing figures isn't explicitly stated, but there is this:

NA Instruction Booklet, p.7 under Quest Map wrote:. . . You will reveal the gameboard layout only when the Hero figures have moved to a position on the gameboard that requires you to reveal something.

I'd say there is no immediate requirement to remove revealed monsters once no Heroes can "see" them. Sure, Morcar/Zargon can keep tabs on their movement secretly, but this is easier if the monsters' last known locations are marked by the figures themselves and their fixed movement scores are used to calculate their new locations.

Should a Hero then move to "see" a monster figure that Morcar/Zargon has actually calculated to have moved away, then the monster figure is either
  1. put in the new space it has moved to if the Hero could "see" it there
  2. or it is then removed from the gameboard, as this is now required to show the new layout.
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Re: Removing Monsters from the Board

Postby Kurgan » Monday March 1st, 2021 11:16am

Interesting attempt at a "fog of war" but I never have done it. More fun to snipe with crossbows and yes even though I use the evil wizard deck, I like to have monsters as Zargon!
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