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Re: Dual Wield Concept Rule

Postby Gold Bearer » June 15th, 2016, 10:23 am

If you want a way to remove less than one defence dice without using the coloured dice then rerolling one white shield for each black shield rolled wouldn't even do it. That's the equivalent to rolling one less dice if they defend with three.

The only ways of doing this using standard dice is to reroll one (or all to make it more of a penalty) white shield if the number of black shields exceeds (or equals to make it more of a penalty) the number of white shields (or exceeds the number of skulls to make it less of a penalty or exceeds the combined number of skulls and white shields to make it even less of a penalty) rolled.

I can't be arsed to work out the odds of those because they're so variable.

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Or you could do the above using white instead of black shields, or if most or at least half of the dice are shields or if most or at least half of the dice are skulls.
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Re: Dual Wield Concept Rule

Postby slev » June 17th, 2016, 7:03 am

I think you may all be over-complicating things.

I'd say that the dial-wield would allow one white shield to be re-rolled every attack. After all, the point of a second weapon is either to parry (swordbreakers, etc), or to open up more attacks to land a telling blow in the first instance.

This gives an advantage to the dual wielding without need for some sort of penalty. If too weak, you could also allow them to re-roll one skull every defence, as they make it harderfor the telling blow to be landed upon them.


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Re: Dual Wield Concept Rule

Postby knightkrawler » June 17th, 2016, 8:15 am

My ruling as presented earlier is even more simple. Once the keywords and icons are defined.
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Re: Dual Wield Concept Rule

Postby Gold Bearer » June 17th, 2016, 12:55 pm

slev wrote:I think you may all be over-complicating things.
Not trying to compicate it, I limit movement to no more than half rate in a turn that you use both weapons. I was just pointing out what would be needed to get a defence dice penalty less severe than removing one dice.
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Re: Dual Wield Concept Rule

Postby Anderas » June 17th, 2016, 2:43 pm

What I like is the possibility to have a choice with two swords.

Either you go agressive stance, then you have no defense bonus on that hand but may reroll a mishap attack die. For defense that is worse than a shield so it is a disadvantage for defense.

Or you go defensive stance. Then you can reroll one defense die. That's less good than a shield, but still it is an option for the second weapon.

If you make it cheap, you do it with two showd sowds. If you have a lot lot money, you do it with two long sowds or browd sowds. In any case, you exchange a die for a lot of gold with a option that is less good, but optional instead. That cool!


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Re: Dual Wield Concept Rule

Postby knightkrawler » June 17th, 2016, 2:45 pm

I see "browd sowd" is now a lexical term. I also love "showd sowd".
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Re: Dual Wield Concept Rule

Postby Anderas » June 17th, 2016, 2:50 pm

My mobile phone AI was learning that quickly. :D


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