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by **chaoticprime** » May 28th, 2013, 5:02 am

bastianbux wrote:My understanding is that one can awaken oneself, but one wakens others, so it is grammatically correct.

The issue I have with it is that he isn't really asleep. He's dead. But "The Chaos God Resurrects" or "Resurrecting a Chaos God" don't sound quite right.

I feel like "Chaos in the East" or "The Rising Chaos" or "The Entombed Chaos" or something might be a bit more appropriate. I'm open to suggestions.

Rise of the Chaos God
The Chaos God Arisen
Insurrection of the Chaos God
Ascension of the Chaos God
The Chaos Weld
Island of Chaos
The Chaotic Isle
Fall of Cosmos (Cosmos is the opposite of Chaos--ordered universe vs empty universe)

We can also account for "God" meaning something different in Japanese. Literally, a God is anything that can be invoked--communicated with from far away and capable of a reply. In Japanese it is a spiritual essence, that can be personified, but is in no way supremely omnipotent--it very specifically addresses earthbound spirits and not those from a higher plane. In English, an equivalent could actually be gained by just capitalizing Chaos, which personifies the word.

The Master of Chaos
Chaos Ascendant
Chaos My Ass

I personally think The Chaos Isle or Island of Chaos describes the product pretty well. It describes the setting more than the end adversary. Chaos in the Isles would also be good, because it describes both. Heroquest naming conventions generally tend to focus on the actual name of the big bad, however, so something like The Face of Chaos would be suitable.

Also, one can awaken oneself, but awakens is another word entirely. The Chaos God Awakens requires an object, or its a sentence fragment as it is a transitive verb.

I really like both "Tide of the Chaos God" and "Rise of the Chaos God". Hm.

"Island of Chaos" and such do not quite convey the landscape as it is a series of several islands. Of course, it can be changed to "Islands of Chaos" or "Isles of Chaos" but... I'm leaning more toward "Tide of" and "Rise of".

Also, while I was working on the Wizard's artifact, I was rereading the "Talisman of Life" information, and I'm not so sure about it. First of all, as someone mentioned earlier in this thread it seems odd that it can only be worn by the Wizard, so I'm thinking about removing that line. But also... the way it works as written now is that if all four Heroes die, it revives them but at the cost of their gold and that it can be used once per quest. I think I added the "once per quest" line, but that makes it way too powerful. I think it should be changed such that the wearer must be alive and take one of their action turns to use it, and it then brings back the other 1-3 dead Heroes, but if the wearer dies, then it instantly revives him. The other option is to keep it as written but remove the "once per quest" line. I like the other idea better though, I think.

by **chaoticprime** » May 28th, 2013, 7:28 pm

That sounds like a rules option to diminish the impersonal nature of having "new" heroes start from scratch. Rather, it lets you start the quest over. Its an in-game explanation for a rule. Its a gimmick, basically. Maybe change it to explain why the heroes can try again, but call it the Talisman of Time's Ebb or something. It explains why the heroes can start over each Quest if they get killed on an attempt.

Also, Tide of the Chaos God has my vote 100%.

by **bastianbux** » May 28th, 2013, 8:00 pm

Well, it's not so much a matter of starting the Quest over, but of being resurrected within the Quest to pick up where they left off. I'd like to double-check the Japanese on that one, but I can't remember where it was that I saw the PDF of the Japanese Artifact cards.

by **chaoticprime** » May 28th, 2013, 8:06 pm

bastianbux wrote:Well, it's not so much a matter of starting the Quest over, but of being resurrected within the Quest to pick up where they left off. I'd like to double-check the Japanese on that one, but I can't remember where it was that I saw the PDF of the Japanese Artifact cards.

I have it. I might ask Alexander for his help, again.

by **TMU** » May 29th, 2013, 1:14 am

NOO! Don't change the title. Awakening sounds much more dramatic.

by **Sjeng** » May 29th, 2013, 2:09 am

bastianbux wrote:
Sjeng wrote:Does the art from nr.1 have an original full color version too? So I can make a EU style cover as well. I kinda dislike the US orange/salmon coloured covers.

Yup! Something like this?

I LOVE this!

Nice work! |_P

and I'm still for:
The Chaos God Awakens (1st choice)
or
Awakening the Chaos God

by **mikemacdee** » May 29th, 2013, 3:26 am

Seems there's still disagreements about a title. May I suggest either "Dawn of Chaos" or "Dawn of the Chaos God"? I think it encompasses all the titles suggested so far, and rolls off the tongue a bit better.