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Re: Casting plastics and taking names.

Postby Goblin-King » Monday October 31st, 2011 3:20pm

As long as you don't try to sell them commercially (i.e. a store or on ebay) you should be fine.
And even if you did I kinda doubt anyone would care really... MB are obviousley not interested in making money on this game!!!

Back to casting: Doesn't anyone perhaps have some expansion figures they would loan out temporarily to a project like this? For the greater good? :bites-lip:


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Re: Casting plastics and taking names.

Postby cynthialee » Monday October 31st, 2011 3:39pm

If I had them I would but I have just recently started to get my HQ stuff replaced.

Got a bid on a copy of Against the Ogre Hoard on ebay but I am not going to hold my breath.
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Re: Casting plastics and taking names.

Postby cynthialee » Tuesday November 1st, 2011 2:29pm

I was just searching around ebay and there is someone selling recast stuff of some of the expansion pack mini's.

But his work looks like crap.
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Re: Casting plastics and taking names.

Postby Goblin-King » Tuesday November 1st, 2011 2:39pm

Yeah, those white ones from Italy? XD
But even if they didn't look like crap (which they do!) I don't think I would buy them.
Personally I'm somewhat against a person making a profit on bootleg merchandise like that.
Doing it non-profitable in a "closed group" like this is something completley different - in my opinion!


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Re: Casting plastics and taking names.

Postby cynthialee » Tuesday November 1st, 2011 3:12pm

I do not begrudge a person a few bucks for their efforts.

But his product is crap and he charges too much.

Now if MB or some other game company were actually doing something wit this game I would feel diferant about someone casting mini's and turning a buck.
But as it is...the game is just languishing in obscurity. If anything we are keeping it alive so there is a potential market if they ever reprint.
Hell they could just reprint the stuff they already have and not make any more content and still make some money. Wonder why they don't bother.... Granted it wouldn't be a big money maker but not everything has to be a top seller to make money.
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Re: Casting plastics and taking names.

Postby Ethica » Wednesday November 2nd, 2011 9:56am

It's a real shame his results aren't better. I did see a nice troll with a HQ base that he'd cast, defects on troll skin might not be so detrimental too.


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Re: Casting plastics and taking names.

Postby Goblin-King » Wednesday November 2nd, 2011 9:58am

cynthialee wrote:I do not begrudge a person a few bucks for their efforts.

But his product is crap and he charges too much.


I agree. This is not just material costs - this is ripping people desperate to get the figures off.


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Re: Casting plastics and taking names.

Postby Big Bene » Wednesday November 2nd, 2011 10:47am

Hi!

Sorry, havn't been around some time...

Uncle Zargon wrote:Ok here is the scoop on casting and mould making. All hero quest miniatures are 2 piece gravity fed moulds (easy!).
agreed
Uncle Zargon wrote: I wouldn't do pewter because itd be way to expensive for everybody involved. The mould cost is 30-40 dollars per model in materials alone. Not to mention the absurd cost of food safe pewter.
Sorry, I have to disagree. Foodsave pewter is about 10-12 € per kg, when you take the time to look it up at ebay. The good thing about pewter (as opposed to resin) is that it's reuseable. You can take leftovers, or "scrap metal" like old tin cans, plates etc, and meld them down. With resin, you have to use new material. The material cost of a figure of foodsave pewter would be somewhat less than 1€. Plus, casting resin is much more difficult, and you always have some waste (with pewter, you can melt down and reuse your waste, as well as any miscast minis). Moreover, we don't need foodsave pewter. For normal gaming purposes, standard casting tin (with 10-30% of lead) is perfectly safe. Just don't place it in your mouth too long...
Uncle Zargon wrote:As for expansion models I have only a couple so until I get my grub hooks on more Ill have to stick to the original game list.
Goblin-King wrote:Back to casting: Doesn't anyone perhaps have some expansion figures they would loan out temporarily to a project like this? For the greater good? :bites-lip:

@Uncle Zargon, are you aware of this thread?
Most of us have enough of the basic miniatures, we look for a way to provide the more seldom ones to those who can't get them.The problem is not to find someone who can do the casting, the problem is somone who is willing to provide the prototypes (i. e. the originals of the expansion set minis).
Have a look ;)


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Re: Casting plastics and taking names.

Postby Uncle Zargon » Saturday November 5th, 2011 7:40am

So I went to my local resin and plastic retailer and priced out the cost for moulds resins and even the dye needed to make the light blue plastic for the expansion minis. It all came to a little over 100$ CA. As far as expansion minis I have the wolfs, the ogre with spiked club, and kneeling elf archer all from the elf expansion pack.


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Re: Casting plastics and taking names.

Postby Goblin-King » Saturday November 5th, 2011 7:56am

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but the MotM ogres is the same as red AtOH ogres?
I find that these are not THAT hard to come by.
Personally I would be very interested in some good replicas of the wolves and elf archers.

On a sidenote... Have you tried making moulds for HQ figures before? A couple quwations pop to my mind.
Don't they get a double "mould-line"? Original and from new mould?

And does the original take any damage - Or even have just a risk of taking damage?
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