Ye Olde Inn

by **Andy P** » November 26th, 2013, 10:39 am

Pan wrote:- they show like 15% of the game content... and everybody is backing the max o.O. [...] To my mind, all of these is simply not done.

I can explain this, at least. That's how Kickstarter works. You're not buying a finished product. You're funding development of something. It just so happens that (in this case at least) the reward for doing so is to get one of the finished product.

So, no. It's not done yet. The Kickstarter is providing them with the funds to do it. That's what crowd-sourcing is for. If that (and the risk that comes with it) doesn't appeal, then crowd-sourcing in general and Kickstarter in particular is not for you. That's OK, it's not for everyone, but it is what it is.

And the figures could be any figures from any other boardgame or miniature company. Why THEIR figures get to be the original? I don't get it.

Yeah, this is something that bothers me a bit too. It could easily have been released as "generic dungeon crawler boardgame #127" and I tell you what, it would not be trending towards $5M on Kickstarter, if it had. The HeroQuest name is driving it, and they don't really have anything to do with HeroQuest, they're riding off someone else's success...

...but I'm a sucker for HeroQuest, so I'm backing it anyway. It's an emotional decision, not a rational one.

Finally, is the price 65 euros or something? Isn't that a tad high?

Seems alright to me. It's comparable to "Descent: Journeys Into the Dark", "Space Hulk" etc. It's the price you pay for boxed games of this kind nowadays.

It looks like this thing is about the miniatures (from the miniature company) not about the game itself. All 8 orcs are individual sculpts? Kind of cool, but it seems all the focus is on unique poses.

I personally want this to be more than just a reprint of the HQ rules. If we got an "official" advancement scheme or something along those lines, then when developing content, we can assume people follow that. As it is, we all use our own house rules, so we have to adapt each others content.

by **Thrawn** » November 26th, 2013, 11:35 am

My biggest concern with this and other kickstarters is that they are sitting on goldmines, and basically deciding the money to just come to them. If they actually ran decent campaigns and had any semblance of knowing what they were trying to do (other than take money), who knows where the kickstarters could go.

by **Goblin-King** » November 26th, 2013, 11:39 am

Sjeng is so freaking mad I can't even tell if he is joking! :lol:

No fimirs + Official? I don't think so Tim. Tribute? Sure. Official? Not in my eyes.
Also those are the worst stretch goals I've seen in a long time!

Monster cards and chaos spells (why do they insist on calling it "primordial" chaos?!) should both just be part of the basic box.
Blank spell cards? Really?
Rolling boulder? fraggle yeah, glad we reached THAT stretch goal!

Is there a reason they are secret? Isn't the point to motivate people to reach different goals?
I think they kinda blew it with the goals. Female heroes had been a perfect SG. Also all those extra heroes.
So what's next now - random monsters and furniture? They've got to be more creative than that?

by **Andy P** » November 26th, 2013, 11:48 am

I'm a bit confused by the recent stretch "goals" (and agreed, not much of a goal if you don't know what you're stretching for). Chaos Spell Cards? Ogre? They're just listed as components of the base box. What gives?

by **Hero_Of_Retro** » November 26th, 2013, 11:55 am

I agree, the stretch goals are so disappointing.. their is no effort, ah we made another $33,000. Here have 1 token, another.. here.. have 1 ogre. There's no oomph!!

Theres been no update from the creators or stretch goals in pace that will pull people in if they see these. They would only go in for the core game. There is so much more they could do with the goals to bring folk in. It seems like a big yawner.. I mean, why not 4 Ogres? 4 Descending Stairs? Well.. still in the 1st 24 hours, I hope the folk are more communicative later on.. Just seems dead. Despite the huge backers on day one.

by **Thrawn** » November 26th, 2013, 12:15 pm

We have about 8 hours until they said the first update is coming.

On the chaos cards, base set only had 6 chaos cards. I'm assuming the stretch goal is giving us back the ones they removed from the original game.

by **Patroclus** » November 26th, 2013, 12:19 pm

I expected something better than some pictures from photoshop. They didn’t know that they will get 320.000$ on the first day, that’s why they didn’t spend money even for some painted minis to show? We know that they will use the HQ name, but not like that. They even use the great commercial from the original!... With just a picture they want to get funded?…

Still I am not sure if I don’t buying it… I believe the minis will be fine and I think that the quests will be easily played with the original rules, so it’s tough to say no… but they didn’t say anything even for the mechanics. I can see that the barbarian has 3 attack, 2 defense and 2 movement. Also there is some space for body and mind and I guess there will be tokens for that… I will wait for the last days…

I have checked the squares of the board and I am posting the image... they are not compatible but very close to the original which is not a problem for me. About the corridors, I can see some diagonal attacks there… it’s not that bad... But still I want to see more to take my decision

by **Sinned** » November 26th, 2013, 2:38 pm

Having seen the pics......I can only say one thing: looks like a bootleg.

I've posted earlier that I wanted to wait for some more pics and info before I made my judgment.

Well, it's called HQ, but looks like a bad homebrew copy.
Calling this 'official' is a joke and is a disgrace to the real HQ.