Ye Olde Inn

by **Maalicia_Ironhoof** » February 6th, 2023, 6:40 am

unlike Giles McNiel's map's this pack is costing thousands of dollars to put together, from fully commissioned artwork (Box, cards, tiles etc), miniature sculpting... it is a long process also considering it is being done by a small community team, and not a multi million dollar corporation...

Hey PinkDwarf, man, I know how you feel, it’s been like forever! We also feel we would have liked this to move a bit faster. Unfortunately, as they have pointed out, there are a few issues specific to a task like this.
I’m not 100% familiar with Giles’ work, but I think he’s just creating quest lines, which is somewhat easier as he’s not introducing new material, but using what already is available in the existing HQ boxes. Creating something new is always a challenge, especially if you want to try and preserve part of what was originally designed. I also have to stress that we have to work with limited resources, both in people and money, so we have to accept that sometimes stuff doesn’t get done as quick as we want, because we’re getting it for free (or almost for free), like the miniatures’ sculpts. Other things required time because it’s not easy to find artist that have the correct style to fit the old game, and we want to get as close as a match as possible. We had to go through at least 4\5 cover artists to get the right one. Of course, that takes time, as is browsing through all the material we have to try and solve some historic issues with broken dynamics of the game (see multiple attacks).
We hope you’ll be still on board when it finally lands: I can tell you it’s totally worth it! Everyone who has seen bits of the expansion is super excited. Even if Hasbro comes out with its own version, there will still be differences, and our pack will still offer a lot of customization for the users of the classic version.

Hopefully, everyone’s going to see some interesting things pretty soon while we do the playtesting…

by **lestodante** » February 6th, 2023, 6:18 pm

PinkDwarf wrote:In the time since these quest packs were announced Giles McNiel has released 6 full quest books. What is taking so long?

PinkDwarf, you're right... I contacted Giles (that's a joke!) and he helped to release the questbook as you wanted! I could not imagine we can go so faster! Thanks for your hint.
Of course we cannot wait for a new cover so we used the same one from his previous books.
Of course there are no cards also... the original project was featuring 30 new cards, new tiles, new miniatures, new icons, new rules plus art for the front box and one for the rear, another art for the book, similar to the one of the box but in a different style... is that ok for you if they are all missing but at least we can release it faster? You can replace miniatures with paper minis!
I am joking of course, I really appreciate Giles' SundayQuest books but this is a completely different work. As Luca sayd, we involved artists for drawing the artworks and since they are not free we can't pay all at once. We have to deal with people pretending half of the payment in advance and then if the work was not satisfying, the money was lost. Feel free to contact me if you want to step in, I will happily sell you all the artworks I commissioned so you can release the pack by yourself. I can assure you, doin' such kind of stuff is not cheap at all. Matching the same vintage style from the 90s is even harder! But we are trying our best. There are handpainted tiles too, it takes some time.
Hasbro already released the BQP and EQP in 1992 and now again in 2022 and 2023... and there are several pages of ERRATA on this forum because they didn't playtest anything. They just copied and pasted the same mistakes from the old version but added few new ones! Doing things this way is easy.
As true HeroQuest fans, our intention is to give everyone a bug free quest pack with complete artworks in the 90's style. Possibly you can be happy by stealing images on the internet, copying and pasting the same from one card to another, modifying them with a mediocre photoshop retouch, changing just the text. If you are happy with such a result, the web is full of great questpacks to satisfy your tastes, then I suggest to not wait for this WQP.

PinkDwarf wrote:At this rate Hasbro will release their Dwarf and Wizard quest packs first.

Yeah, bugged as the previous two or even more! :roll:

PS: an idea of how the questbook may look if we released the questpack in a rush can be seen below... but fortunately we are doing things in a different way! :mrgreen:

wqpGilles.jpg

by **Bram** » February 7th, 2023, 6:27 pm

Still, I would like to express my gratitude to all the people who are working on this project! Thank you for all the energy and time you guys put into this, it will be epic, even if it takes years to complete. If you need some extra support, just ask!

by **lucapaschi** » February 8th, 2023, 12:59 pm

Hi, Bram, thanks for your support! Hopefully it won't take much more than the year it's taking! We should also be able to move a bit quicker on the Dwarf pack having already the right people for the job.