RISE OF THE DREAD MOON discussion

[LucaRocks]

Wait don't spells stack already? I mean if there are two spellcasters on the board at the same time, they could technically each cast spells on the same hero, no? Sorry if I'm missing some thing. I don't think I've read anything about that NOT being possible.

Anyway, I like the "Mags" and I think they will be fun to play. I mean a dread warrior that has a ranged attack? YES PLEASE. Only thing is I wish we had two more of them. I think it makes sense for them to have tempest. They will probably be paired up with bosses most of the time so they could use Tempest while the boss does his thing. I hate using a tempest spell as a boss and only having skeletons or orcs to work with. The Mags will make.for a greater challenge in boss battles.

[Kurgan]

They do stack, I was questioning if Tempest would stop the "saving" role that a Hero normally does every turn with Sleep. It doesn't stop him from defending from attacks, nor does it stop him drinking a potion (since those can be used anytime, not just on a "turn").

Two Tempests on a single hero would either do nothing more than a single use, or it would make him lose two turns in a row...

To me a single one of these encountered wouldn't be much more of a challenge than encountering a solo Chaos Warrior, really. Ball of Flame is cool to bypass a hero's armor but it can do a max of 2 BP vs. his normal 4 dice attack that often proves lethal. Of course the spell is only single use, and there are only two of these guys (then again in homebrew you can do whatever you want, I'm just imagining how these would work practically in the quests they plan to give us).

A pair leading a team of Chaos Warriors would be a major threat even to a party of experienced heroes.

[Kurgan]

SteveR2000 and some others are reporting on the HeroQuestFans Discord that some of the previous ship/release dates for the European editions of Rise of the Dread Moon have been corrected (previously some even said June 30th, which of course was yesterday) to either "coming soon" or dates in September (18th for example as previously reported) and even a slight price adjustment.

[SirRick]

A good thing about the Magus Guard and Assassin figures, is now we have enough light blue figures to form a full party of elven adventurers! Here are some examples:
Magus Guard: Barbarian or Knight
Elf Warrior: Dwarf
Elf Archer: Elf
Sinestra: Wizard
Also the Assassin figure could be used for a Bard or Rogue hero.

I suppose the Cadre of the Raven’s Veil figures could be used in the same way, but there is no clear “Wizard” character unless you still allow the Wizard player to use Hand Axes despite the errata. Or just do without a Wizard and use one of the other heroes instead. As long as you get your two healing spells you can get by.

[Virg]

I think strategically, there are multiple ways to use Tempest. When you can't attack, but may have Line of Sight on a hero the most probable case. Or maybe your Magus Guard is almost dead, so you decide to move them tactically to last longer, and need the players turn to be missed in order to accomplish that. Could cast tempest, than move away, and you'd have a full turn again, which you could than cast Ball of Flame, and move even further away.

You can't stack Tempest to last for multiple turns on a single Zargon turn. That's cheesing the game mechanic incorrectly. Tempest baseline can only make the player lose their next turn, so casting Tempest multiples on a hero, every application of the spell ends on the players next turn, and not their next next next turn. Otherwise the spell should have the ability to last longer than their next turn baseline.

If you want to cheese your Zargon turns, than properly cast it on Zargon's turns after the Tempest spell has finished and the player has missed their turn, and before the player's next turn. The player can still lose their turn for multiple turns this way, but it stays true to the spell, and provides a more fair encounter as the remaining hero's in the party can have a chance to free up their companion by trying to eliminate the threats before they're capable of Tempesting out the hero for the entire encounter if it lasts multiple turns.

[Virg]

So verdict is still out on who the BBEG for RotDM is. If it is Sir Ragnar, I'd think it's more likely that we use a Dread Warrior as his proxy over the Magus Guard. But as I stated on the AH discord, I think Sir Ragnar is a MacGuffin to this story.

I also want to throw it out there that the Dread Wraith while only a single mini, may be the equivalent of a Gargoyle, and may not be the BBEG as well (though I imagine it's definitely somewhere in the final quest Q10). I could easily see it being a rare monster like the Gargoyle, where it's a rare random encounter among the questbook. Or perhaps something tied to a Dread Moon mechanic with the tiles we know nothing about where we see if some certain conditions are met, a Dread Wraith is created on the board game, or it does something special.

[LucaRocks]

Always Bored posted a reddit link saying someone got a copy of Rise. Can anyone cross post?

Reddit user vincezo1985

[Kurgan]

Yes, thanks vincezo1985!!
Video discussing the newly released facebook and reddit reveals (FANS HAVE UNBOXED!). Only thing missing are the quests themselves...

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1862794381?filter=highlights&sort=time (youtube replay coming much later sorry...)

Thanks ElVirg, Giuseppe Rotondo Axian for sharing the links and reposting on HeroQuestFans Discord!

Posting images here, but yeah, someone upload copies to the Inn too when you can...

[Kurgan]

More... again, reposts from reddit

[Kurgan]

And more...