Heroquest remake by Hasbro - The BIG discussion thread

[Cael Darkhollow]

As far as my own opinion goes, halflings are fine but to me the term "Warlock" is a male witch

Personally, I think in a setting with a male villain called the "Witch Lord", that the gender distinction argument for Warlock being a male witch loses all of it's ground. While in the real world those terms are gendered, in the HeroQuest world they don't seem to be, and that's fine. Many of the new customers finding HeroQuest are going to be familiar with D&D these days as well, where Warlock just means "Person that gets their magic from a powerful magical entity", and the term won't be out of place being used that way here for them.

Just my

a fair point.
Witch seems a little more gender neutral to me than Warlock although that one still is heavily slanted towards females generally in language history let alone gaming. It is similar to saying the term "mankind" includes females and "witchcraft" includes male practitioners.
Warlock has always been male in it's etymology as far as I know. "Lord" is very male oriented term so helped define that character even if the term "witch" seemed a slight gender flex in Witch Lord. But you are right, can't quibble the gender of warlock with "witch lord" ambiguous in the original product.

I have been playing D&D since the early 80's, HeroQuest since it's release in the 90's, so 30+ years worth of fantasy roleplay and that is what the terms witch and warlock conjure for me, distinct genders. Even though I have bought much of the 5E D&D I haven't played it at all and have yet to read through most of it as well; interesting the term warlock has been gender neutralized you say, I assume in 5e? I played AD&D and AD&D 2nd edition but have collected OD&D, Basic D&D, 3rd edition and most of the 5th (only own one 4th ed D&D book didn't care for that edition at all) so I would consider myself an experienced veteran gamer and this is the first I have heard of it. perhaps you are right and younger generations view the term completely differently (obviously the designer does) if that is what roleplaying or video games define it now as.

[Cael Darkhollow]

Witch Lord doesn't necessarily have to mean that he's a Witch. It could mean that he's the Lord of the Witches.

Another fair point.

[Darkfox190]

As far as my own opinion goes, halflings are fine but to me the term "Warlock" is a male witch

Personally, I think in a setting with a male villain called the "Witch Lord", that the gender distinction argument for Warlock being a male witch loses all of it's ground. While in the real world those terms are gendered, in the HeroQuest world they don't seem to be, and that's fine. Many of the new customers finding HeroQuest are going to be familiar with D&D these days as well, where Warlock just means "Person that gets their magic from a powerful magical entity", and the term won't be out of place being used that way here for them.

Just my

a fair point.
Witch seems a little more gender neutral to me than Warlock although that one still is heavily slanted towards females generally in language history let alone gaming. It is similar to saying the term "mankind" includes females and "witchcraft" includes male practitioners.
Warlock has always been male in it's etymology as far as I know. "Lord" is very male oriented term so helped define that character even if the term "witch" seemed a slight gender flex in Witch Lord. But you are right, can't quibble the gender of warlock with "witch lord" ambiguous in the original product.

I have been playing D&D since the early 80's, HeroQuest since it's release in the 90's, so 30+ years worth of fantasy roleplay and that is what the terms witch and warlock conjure for me, distinct genders. Even though I have bought much of the 5E D&D I haven't played it at all and have yet to read through most of it as well; interesting the term warlock has been gender neutralized you say, I assume in 5e? I played AD&D and AD&D 2nd edition but have collected OD&D, Basic D&D, 3rd edition and most of the 5th (only own one 4th ed D&D book didn't care for that edition at all) so I would consider myself an experienced veteran gamer and this is the first I have heard of it. perhaps you are right and younger generations view the term completely differently (obviously the designer does) if that is what roleplaying or video games define it now as.

Warlock was introduced as a class in Complete Arcane for 3rd Edition, and has been a core class in both 4th Edition and 5th Edition. So it's been around as a gender-neutral class in D&D since 2004 at this point. So not a super long time, but long enough to carry some weight when it comes to younger gamers these days, which are most certainly a crowd that Hasbro is going to want to stir up interest with. I think that's a big point of consideration - While many of the changes to the design and art of the game may seem bad to us fans coming from the classic versions, the game does need to grow and adapt based on the needs of the current market as well. I've seen a lot of hate towards stuff because it doesn't fit our ideas of the HeroQuest world, but... With the Warhammer stuff stripped out of it, redecorated, and redone, we need to realize that the new HeroQuest world isn't going to be exactly the same as the old one. Personally I'm hoping it works out well for them - I'd love to have new people to play HeroQuest with, and attracting a diverse player base will be important for the future health of the game going forward. Allowing terms like Witch and Warlock to slip into gender neutrality will help with that.

[lestodante]

Witch Lord doesn't necessarily have to mean that he's a Witch. It could mean that he's the Lord of the Witches.

The italian tranlsation was the equivalent of the lord of the sorcerors (male evil wizards)

[Cael Darkhollow]

best Facebook HQ group comment I have read regarding the unlock characters

Julien Bourrand
"Actually, if it cannot be logically seen/added in a Les Edward piece of classic S&S illustration, it should not have been picked (try to imagine the Orc hero and the leggings Druid on the original box art...). All in all these choices are poor, and regardless of talent or what not, it feels like the designers have no clue of what they were working on..."

[lestodante]

I agree but they will not care at all by our comments because they reached theyr money goal already and doubled it!
Did you notice they didn't even tweet back on their twitter account?
I wrote them: Also, why did you write "Cast the Far Voice spell and let us know… or just tweet us @heroquest" if you never tweet back to us?

[Lemmeron]

The new stretch goals are finally making me interested in buying this. The $300 price tag in Oz was pretty steep for a game I already have complete plus redone so much work on with new board cards dice etc...

[Cael Darkhollow]

very cool looking expansion pack in the new stretch goals
https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/heroq ... announced/
why isn't this art on the pledge page?

[elvyler]

That art does look pretty cool. One problem I have with it: last time I checked, there aren't any minis for anything depicted on that cover.

It all looks like a bunch of ghosts, some kind of serpent, and that crazy looking elf lady. None of those things have minis in the core game or the expansions.

Maybe the orcs could be subbed for the orcish looking ghosts, and mummies/zombies/skeletons for the other ghosts, and maybe the female elf can be subbed for the crazy looking elf lady, but what if someone at the table wants to play as the female elf?

Maybe the next set of unlocks with include the rest of this quest pack.

[Kurgan]

Vampires are canon in HeroQuest as of Legacy of Sorasil pc game! Cool looking cover.

PLAY TESTING... for the sake of the average Joe/Jill who buys this game next year, obviously they SHOULD play test ALL new content and Quests... BUT since we already have all the data about the Warlock, for example, there's nothing stopping US from "playtesting" the character in our game sessions. I would just say she's the only one who knows how to use the Wand, it doesn't make sense to say only a certain character can buy something (Gold is Gold, and what's stopping you from GIVING it to another Hero in between Quests or even during a Quest when you're on adjacent squares?).

Here's a Reaper figure that's reminiscent of the Warlock.

A few female Druids can be found here.

To me the "WizKids Deep Cuts" line of miniatures look the closest to the "new" style and would be easily adaptable to Remake HeroQuest. Sure, they say the bases are 25mm (vs. 1 inch which is 25.4) but they should measure up. And the bases are round!

Do these look familiar? These are obviously NOT from remake HeroQuest, but I think they could provide neat alternatives, depending upon your setup.

Orc Bards are pretty unique, though, so may need to craft your own...