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Overview of the Old World

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Re: Overview of the Old World

Postby Kurgan » February 13th, 2021, 10:08 am

j_dean80 wrote:Battle Masters was also developed by Stephen Baker. It was a collaboration between MB and GW (just like HQ). The 2 expansions for BM not only came with extra units, but also came with new powerful warriors and some additional rules.

P.S. I don’t have much free time. I just enjoy this, so this is how I spend part of what I do have. (It’s either this or buying too many minis and wife getting mad every time another package arrives.)


Interesting, please share, because what I found claimed the new units used the same old cards. Is that they have fewer body points than the default units? I wondered if there was any new story text included. Maybe a huge map of the old world tucked in there somewhere.. :mrgreen:


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Re: Overview of the Old World

Postby j_dean80 » February 13th, 2021, 12:45 pm

Kurgan wrote:
j_dean80 wrote:Battle Masters was also developed by Stephen Baker. It was a collaboration between MB and GW (just like HQ). The 2 expansions for BM not only came with extra units, but also came with new powerful warriors and some additional rules.

P.S. I don’t have much free time. I just enjoy this, so this is how I spend part of what I do have. (It’s either this or buying too many minis and wife getting mad every time another package arrives.)


Interesting, please share, because what I found claimed the new units used the same old cards. Is that they have fewer body points than the default units? I wondered if there was any new story text included. Maybe a huge map of the old world tucked in there somewhere.. :mrgreen:


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Re: Overview of the Old World

Postby Kurgan » February 13th, 2021, 3:53 pm

j_dean80 wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
j_dean80 wrote:Battle Masters was also developed by Stephen Baker. It was a collaboration between MB and GW (just like HQ). The 2 expansions for BM not only came with extra units, but also came with new powerful warriors and some additional rules.

P.S. I don’t have much free time. I just enjoy this, so this is how I spend part of what I do have. (It’s either this or buying too many minis and wife getting mad every time another package arrives.)


Interesting, please share, because what I found claimed the new units used the same old cards. Is that they have fewer body points than the default units? I wondered if there was any new story text included. Maybe a huge map of the old world tucked in there somewhere.. :mrgreen:


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Re: Overview of the Old World

Postby cornixt » February 15th, 2021, 11:23 am

You have to be careful with using placenames as in-universe proof. King's Cross railway station features in Harry Potter and The Ladykillers, but it would be weird if people were to consider them both to be in the same universe.


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Re: Overview of the Old World

Postby Pancho » February 16th, 2021, 4:32 am

cornixt wrote:You have to be careful with using placenames as in-universe proof. King's Cross railway station features in Harry Potter and The Ladykillers, but it would be weird if people were to consider them both to be in the same universe.

If you want to make the case for why Warhammer Fantasy and Heroquest are set in different worlds then go for it.
Otherwise it’s just individual fans ignoring the obvious in order to justify taking the game in their own direction. Nothing wrong with that of course, but it doesn’t change the setting of the original game for others.


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Re: Overview of the Old World

Postby cornixt » February 16th, 2021, 11:09 am

Blood Bowl is the only game where it is clearly not set in the exact same Old World as Warhammer despite being identical in almost every way, but there is no reason that that's not also the case for others. I don't think that there is enough evidence for HQ to make any specific claims. I'm much more of a "do what you like" guy than "You're doing it wrong" guy. Restricting yourself to a specific notion of the world is fine, but telling others that it is wrong for diverting from it is lemony goodness.


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Re: Overview of the Old World

Postby j_dean80 » February 16th, 2021, 11:43 am

cornixt wrote:Blood Bowl is the only game where it is clearly not set in the exact same Old World as Warhammer despite being identical in almost every way, but there is no reason that that's not also the case for others. I don't think that there is enough evidence for HQ to make any specific claims. I'm much more of a "do what you like" guy than "You're doing it wrong" guy. Restricting yourself to a specific notion of the world is fine, but telling others that it is wrong for diverting from it is lemony goodness.


I have no issue with someone using Warhammer world, or a generic world, or their own world, or even a d&d world. It is personal preference. My choice is to use the Warhammer world as that’s what the original was based off of. This thread is dedicated to that and not a push on anyone that they “must/should” accept it.
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Re: Overview of the Old World

Postby Davane » February 17th, 2021, 5:35 am

j_dean80 wrote:
cornixt wrote:Blood Bowl is the only game where it is clearly not set in the exact same Old World as Warhammer despite being identical in almost every way, but there is no reason that that's not also the case for others. I don't think that there is enough evidence for HQ to make any specific claims. I'm much more of a "do what you like" guy than "You're doing it wrong" guy. Restricting yourself to a specific notion of the world is fine, but telling others that it is wrong for diverting from it is lemony goodness.


I have no issue with someone using Warhammer world, or a generic world, or their own world, or even a d&d world. It is personal preference. My choice is to use the Warhammer world as that’s what the original was based off of. This thread is dedicated to that and not a push on anyone that they “must/should” accept it.


I concur. What people do in their own games is fine by me, but just because people can set their games in their own worlds, doesn't mean that there isn't a need for those who prefer a shared canon to discuss what is important to that canon. Anyone can diverge from the HQ canon whenever and however they wish, but it helps to know what they are diverging from.
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Re: Overview of the Old World

Postby Kurgan » February 19th, 2021, 11:52 am

If something I made up happens to have a coincidental correspondence in the Warhammer fantasy lore, I think that's cool, but it's not going to stop me either way. ;)


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Re: Overview of the Old World

Postby Cael Darkhollow » February 25th, 2021, 2:41 am

as I had a complete US set of HeroQuest + quest packs, Advanced HeroQuest and terror expansion + paint set and Battlemasters since I was a kid, as well as the DarkWorld game (with very similar to HQ miniatures) I thought I had it all and that everyone knew about all those games. I have been playing them for 30 years. Apparently few beyond original owners know about them all even today.
I also have and play Warhammer (2-8 editions) and Warhammer Quest (original only I hate AoS) and Talisman 3rd edition. Every single game I could find that had the Old World Setting or similar GW/HQ miniatures.

It wasn't until I started looking in other countries eBay listings that I learned about the European exclusives: Wizards of Morcar, Against the Ogre Horde, HeroQuest Advanced Quest Edition, Battlemasters Imperial Lords expansion, Battlemasters Chaos Warbands expansion, DarkWorld Village of Fear, and DarkWorld Dragon's Gate.
I had to get them all too.
As far as I know I now have everything HQ, AHQ, Battlemasters, WHQ, DarkWorld, WHFB, and WHRP related.

But there always is something else, everytime I research and scour the internet I find more to collect.
a GW game called Mighty Warriors that shares figures with advanced heroquest, or Legend of Zagor that looks like another HQ clone with similar miniatures to DarkWorld and HeroQuest.

I am still picking up Mighty Empires, Mordheim, Etc. related to the Warhammer world and my miniatures collection has grown into the thousands by now, I doubt I will live long enough to paint them all even if I live another 40 odd years.
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I have a fantasy game obsession. Although HeroQuest is one of my favorite parts, it is only a component of a much bigger whole fantasy gaming collection. I doubt I will ever stop collecting or playing.
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