Heroquest remake by Hasbro - The BIG discussion thread

[Leathaface79]

Limited Time exclusives...

Yeah "exclusive" meaning right now. A bit like calling a video game "Only on Xbox" (until the time it gets released on playstation). Marketing gimmick... "last chance to own!" "supplies limited!" "this offer won't last long" don't miss out! etc.

Totally agree about Ragnar, Mentor and Witch Lord, they are kind of gimmicky, I do like having a dedicated Boss fig for the Witch Lord though.

I had said from the beginning that the wording of Mentor and Witch Lord as Limited Exclusives and Ragar's wording of "This version of the Character miniature will only be available during this campaign" & "1 Limited Timed Exclusive" pointed at a Full Retail release. Many thought that this would just be a Haslab only or might be available on Hasbro Pulse in the future but the way they worded the "exclusive" it had to point at them releasing the full set, all the expansions and the additional content. I'm not sure how they will do it, but they will probably have more fig packs like the Knights that will include a group of the "Exclusive" content. Something like the Alt Gender Hero's and a slightly different Ragnar Fig in one Expansion Pack. And Mentor, Witch Lord as well as the Bard, Warlock and Druid in another "Expansion Pack". Just my humble opinion.

Ragnar.JPG

In the Full Text it states This Version will only be availble during the Pulse Campaign and below it in the small text, it says you got 1 Limited Timed Exclusive. The only exclusive fig in the "Core" was Ragnar, seems to kind of contradiction that Only that version would be available and it being a "Timed" exclsive.

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The Mentor & Witch Lord straight called them a Timed Exclusive.

[Leathaface79]

On second thought, the bard might come with The Sprit Queen's Torment stand alone expansion, but package the Druid, Warlock, Mentor and Witch Lord in their own expansion.

The 4 Alt Gender + Ragnar already have a neat little box that can be packaged for Retail.

[Kurgan]

One thing... taking them literally, I would expect the four "bonus heroes" (gender swaps of the classic four) would be obtainable after the pledge through the Hasbro Pulse website. I don't know if Hasbro sells direct or if they farm it out to other retailers... but in the latter case I would expect that little bonus box to be included, vs. say if you went into some random retail store and bought it you wouldn't expect to find them packed in. I always expected that's what they meant by it.

Heroic Pledgers SHOULD still get Sir Ragnar (along with the aforementioned gender swapped heroes). If they just say "fudge it/forget about it" and just release these extras in separate boxes, I'm cool with that too.


But I can imagine "volume 2" of the "hero collection" could easily be the Druid or Warlock in a little box with the appropriate cards (or maybe both together "Hero Collection Volume II: Magicians" perhaps?).

Well there be "monster collections"? I could imagine a box of "undead" monsters (6 pieces) or "green skinned" monsters (6) or "dread" monsters (4) for those.

What about the new quests? All sorts of ways to re-package those, the Dragon seems the easiest. "Quest Collection" with just a little box and the quest map (proofread 2nd edition) inside is easy enough to imagine. I agree with you that putting the Bard with his cards in with the Spirit Queen's Torment makes a lot of sense for a re-package.

Then again they can do whatever they want, but they could package the Witch Lord figure in with a retail version of ROTWL. The "Mentor" figure might be appropriate with Prophecy of Telor, since they have basically cast Stephen Baker as Mentor at this point (other than the teaser trailer of course). Sir Ragnar would seem to fit with the Game System... there's the little spot for him inside the "bonus heroes" little box as it is.

It would be easy for them to modify the inner plastic tray not to have a spot for the little box or inside the little box not to have the spot for Ragnar, of course if they wanted to go that route. Or if they were really cheap, just plug the hole with foam or something, but that would look really cheap.

But point taken, as we've seen, they're okay making a little box with only 2 minis in it (even if there are 12 cards, not all of them new), so they could easily do the same with the other components... and once again undercut Mythic scalpers who break up their sets to sell the individual pieces to those who really wanted them.

[Gatch]

Of those, the "Mentor" figure is cool looking, but he's really not of any use in the game at all (except the freebie Rogar's Hall which many have concluded is way too hard for what it's trying to do as a "training quest" to teach you about failure). He's just an alternate for the Wizard (what kind of sense does it make to play with a Wizard who looks just like Mentor who is supposed to be behind the scenes not fighting? his stats would be way bigger than the default wizard, right? it's purely a gimmick, like having Sir Ragnar who is used in only a small part of one quest which to many is an anticlimax as written). The WitchLord is great but I don't think is mini is all that exciting. In the default game we represented this boss and Sir Ragnar with the chaos warlock (dread sorcerer equivalent) now anyway.

Limited Time exclusives...

Yeah "exclusive" meaning right now. A bit like calling a video game "Only on Xbox" (until the time it gets released on playstation). Marketing gimmick... "last chance to own!" "supplies limited!" "this offer won't last long" don't miss out! etc.

For most people there was no choice. By the time they knew HeroQuest was coming back, the pledge drive was long over. They will get to buy the retail version within a short time. That apparently means the Game System and for some at least and probably all later, KK and ROTWL and (if they're lucky) the Knights too.

They are wide open to release that other stuff "due to popular demand." They didn't promise to smash the molds for the other figures after fulfilling the pledge drive did they? These are plastic game tokens, not commemorative jewelry pieces. Think of the millions they could rake in selling them piecemeal over time... certainly they'd undercut that (very limited) scalper market.

Put that credit card away and get off of Ebay. This isn't the time to enrich those folks, just wait. We all waited a year, what's a few more months? Or spend that money on a classic set, which will run you about $175 for game system and $70-90 each for KK/ROTWL (tip: buy piecemeal, "complete in box" isn't always worth it, if it's even accurate!). But absolutely no reason to pay somebody on ebay to get the Game System!

And let's say these figures do end up exclusive, and someone still wants Sir Ragnar, Mentor and the Witch Lord? I said it before, but I see fanmade 3D printed figures of them online. They're not exactly the same as official, but I say the official isn't worth going into debt over anyways, so yeah.

[Stairwell]

Got my mythic set from EB in Oz yesterday. They said they got quite a few which is surprising as I'm in a (largish) rural area. Will be interesting to see if any of the mythic sets end up on store shelves next week as pre orders only get held for one week then put on the shelf (deposited money is put on your account). My set came packed in a generic brown box with an EB barcode on the outside saying it was BG HeroQuest Set $300...

I haven't had a chance to check the contents for missing pieces etc yet but I need to. Also the app is still not available in Aus..

[Gatch]

I've been assuming if you have the remake tiles you surely have the remake board as well... and even without trying to re-base the remake miniatures...

The furniture is the same size or smaller in the Remake edition so those would work with the classic board just fine. All of the classic pieces will work just fine on the Remake board. The new character minis are compatible with the classic board.

Using the remake tiles can lead to crowding on the classic board... but unless you're trying to play the crypt of perpetual darkness on the classic board I'm not sure the issue.

Is this going to be a concern for people who are buying overpriced mythic boxes on Ebay (as in the Mythic box ONLY, not the whole set) to use with their classic board?

First off you will be able to buy the Game System remake in retail shortly, or if you just want to print your own board for $35-45 from BGM you can do that and save yourself some cash so everything fits perfectly.

I say Mythic, because all of the Remake tiles have analogs in the classic editions other than the three unused "mystery tiles" which, as their name implies, aren't actually used in any quests.... other than Joe's tiles, which other than the two rooms, account for some unique traps (half of which are removed once you chop through them), right? So I'm not sure it's that big a complaint worth worrying about. Others may disagree...

might be a good subject for a video, now that you mention it! (showing how the classic pieces fit on the remake board and vice versa)

I do have the remake board and everything; I backed Mythic, after all. I'm just trying to look at every option for enhancing our HeroQuest games among friends and family, and I wanna take as little off the table as possible.

I mentioned before how my brother has a vintage board from the UK (because it was the cheapest that was complete at the time he got it off eBay), so we've been testing these things on that, and that's how I'm coming to these conclusions.

[Kurgan]

Gatch, would you be willing to post pics? I'm sure others are very interested because these questions have come up before. I posted a few pics in the gallery section showing the classic minis on a custom board that had 1 inch squares, but that was before I opened my mythic tier.

[Kurgan]

Got my mythic set from EB in Oz yesterday. They said they got quite a few which is surprising as I'm in a (largish) rural area. Will be interesting to see if any of the mythic sets end up on store shelves next week as pre orders only get held for one week then put on the shelf (deposited money is put on your account). My set came packed in a generic brown box with an EB barcode on the outside saying it was BG HeroQuest Set $300...

I haven't had a chance to check the contents for missing pieces etc yet but I need to. Also the app is still not available in Aus..

Thanks for reporting from the land down under!

[Kurgan]

Check it out a SPONSORED (shill) unboxing, from gamestop. He shows off the knight miniatures here

[Gatch]

Gatch, would you be willing to post pics? I'm sure others are very interested because these questions have come up before. I posted a few pics in the gallery section showing the classic minis on a custom board that had 1 inch squares, but that was before I opened my mythic tier.

I don't wanna mess with my brother's board without his permission, so I wouldn't count on it immediately, but I'll see what I can do.

EDIT: I also wanna note that we don't own any vintage versions of Kellar's Keep, Return of the Witch Lord or Frozen Horror; part of why my brother backed Mythic was a chance to finally own these expansions in any form. I myself decided it was a bargain.