Heroquest remake by Hasbro - The BIG discussion thread

[ajjohnsen]

Every time I look at the page now I'm more and more annoyed...Why were these goals added so late? This is easily the best group and looks really good to me. I'm very intrigued about the Dragon mini/quest/tiles; it just screams well designed and thought out...unlike the other characters we've seen introduced which seem force fed at this point

[Pancho]

Every time I look at the page now I'm more and more annoyed...Why were these goals added so late? This is easily the best group and looks really good to me. I'm very intrigued about the Dragon mini/quest/tiles; it just screams well designed and thought out...unlike the other characters we've seen introduced which seem force fed at this point

The new gargoyle is very good indeed, the sorceress would make a very good Kessandria, the dragon would be an epic boss, and the new dread warrior is an improvement on the earlier one I think. The abomination rounds out a very useful batch of minis.
On the one hand it’s possible that Hasbro have botched it again by putting the dodgy bonus Hero figures before these unobtainable good ones, but on the other hand I have a sneaky suspicion that they wouldn’t have put these up if they didn’t already know that they were over 3million (when the non US sales get added in).

It’s unlikely that I’ll ever own this, but I’m getting excited for those of you that might end up with the dragon et al.

[Blayze]

On the one hand it’s possible that Hasbro have botched it again by putting the dodgy bonus Hero figures before these unobtainable good ones, but on the other hand I have a sneaky suspicion that they wouldn’t have put these up if they didn’t already know that they were over 3million (when the non US sales get added in).

I think the non-US sales are already in, because of several fairly large jumps several times a day.
Zavvi I know for a fact send their orders in daily, because I asked them via email and they told me; at this point in the campaign, Hasbro might even process them daily.

The simplest answer as to why Hasbro updated the website now, even though we're not even at 2.8 yet, is because there's only a few days left and they want to try and stoke the fire a bit.

[Oftkilted]

Having been watching it, I’m not sold that the non-us numbers are in. Or that the non-us numbers have been posted at any time in the last 6 days.

If they are in that means that global sales overall have slowed to a crawl.

However. They added in their 4M goals. And the last time we saw an update to the next major goals they were over their breakpoint. (And international sales were adding in ~100k chunks initially, and the last two days with international bumps totaled about 50k/day including NA.) so either they’re holding cards really close to their vests, and will drop it all in the next day or so ... or it’s going to be a painful slog to get over 3M.

[Orc26]

Well... Wish there was a way to give more money... Add ons would get us over that $4 mill mark really quick.
$20 for an extra pile of undead minis
$20 for an extra pile of greenskins
$10 for an extra pile of dreaddudes
Easily $50 extra bucks from a lot of people.

[Kurgan]

Gosh I don't check for a day and I miss a lot. Technically if they (or we, in the case of custom adventures) designed the Quests correctly, we probably wouldn't need those "Extra" minis, it's just more for variety's sake or if you like painting them, I guess. After all, the "unlocks" all come with Mythic tier, and that means you're already getting the extra complements of "Greenskins" and "Undead" via the KK & ROTWL remake expansion packs.

What size are the figures/game pieces included?

Mini figures are planned to be 28mm scale but their actual height will vary by character size.
Will all the models be grey?

Based on community feedback, we have decided to differentiate model colors.

Mini's with color

9 days huh? Good luck with that. I honestly don't see them making it, personally. That new Sorcerer(ess) is literally doing the "loser" sign, but I guess it's not on her forehead, so maybe she's okay. 3 Mill I could see, but 4 Million before Nov 6th? I doubt it, personally. Sure, we had a big fundraising spike in the first day or so, but $1,336,780 in the next 9 days ($148,531.12 a day)? Somebody is going to miss out on turkey this year! I guess you could try to say it's an early Christmas present for NEXT year.

A dragon is something many of us have wondered about, it will be interesting to see what solution he pulls off. The mini makes it look odd, but not having it take up five or six squares is a plus. Dragons that big are pretty ridiculous and implausible for a quartet of simple Heroes to be expected to take out.

[Oftkilted]

Day 1: $1,000,000 (actually hit 1 million 30min before 24 hours)
Day 2: $267,000 in Sales
Day 3: $151,000 in Sales
Day 4: $102,000 in Sales
Day 5: $65,000 in Sales
Day 6: $52,500 in Sales
Day 7: $39,698 in Sales
Day 8: $43,647 in Sales
Day 9: $38,097 in Sales
Day 10: $34,048 in Sales
Day 11: $26,248 in Sales
Day 12: $24,049 in Sales
Day 13: $21,848 in Sales
Day 14: $20,448 in Sales
Day 15: $15,799 in Sales
Day 16: $19,899 in Sales
Day 17: $134,741 in Sales
Day 18: $25,445 in Sales
Day 19: $19,599 in Sales
Day 20: $17,949 in Sales
Day 21: $15,399 in Sales
Day 22: $14,049 in Sales
Day 23: $198,837 in Sales Total sales as of Day 23: $2,347,191

Day 24: ?
Day 25: ?
Day 26: (total for 24, 25 and 26 = $53,809) to total at $2,401,000
Day 27: $17,836 in Sales Total of $2,418,836 as of 7pm GMT-4
Day 28: $14,899 in sales Total of $2,433,735 as of 7pm GMT-4
Day 29: $63,646 in sales Total of $2,497,381 as of 8:15PM
Day 30: $46,297 in sales Total of $2,543,678 as of 8:25PM
Day 31: $18,049 in sales Total of $2,561,727 as of 8:25PM
Day 32: $17,848 in sales Total of $2,579,575 as of 8:25PM GMT -4
Day 33: $12,950 in sales Total of $2,592,525 as of 8:25PM
Day 34: $16,646 in sales Total of $2,609,171 as of 8:25PM
Day 35: $20,801 in sales Total of $2,629,972 as of 8:25PM
Day 36: $28,648 in sales Total of $2,658,620 as of 8:25PM

The sales trend rose to a moving average of ~$19K/Day over the past 5 days (since the 31st.)
8 Day average ~$28K/Day (counting from the 28th)
There are ~9 Days left in the campaign.

The next unlock is the female mummies sculpt in ~$141K

Overall the numbers are trending up slightly over the past 5 days when looking at NA, but the international number bumps usually get added about every 6-7 days. There was no major “bump” showing up over the past two days.

If the 5 day average (which is primarily domestic only) numbers continue at ~$19K/day that will only add approximately $171K to reach ~2.8M. ~$200 shy of the 3M stretch goal.

At ~$28.5k/Day average like today’s NA sales for the next 9 days would unlock the Alt-sculpt female mummies. If the international totals are being currently added.

The 8 day trend has risen to ~$28K. While an upward trend, if we continue at that number it will not put the final total over 3M without an international bump, so a push for the new unlocks at over 3M will depend heavily on international sales, and last minute crowdfund rushes.

To unlock the Bard and additional quest book at 3M, the crowdfunding will need to be hitting ~$38K/day average. (Unless there is a substantial uptick at the end. Which as @Orc26 and others have mentioned is fairly typical. Though in no way guaranteed.) The domestic trend over the past week is poor news for the 3M stretch goal and the additional quest book.

To reach the 4M stretch goal (and the dragon!) would require an average of ~$149k/day over the next 9 days.

Nice thing is that Joe tweeted his support:
https://mobile.twitter.com/JoeManganiel ... 7982960640

[elvyler]

Well, there you have it. He pretty much just confirmed my suspicions in his tweet. "If you love D&D and board games..." So they might be trying to turn it into D&D after all.

[Kurgan]

So to recap. Here's what they're offering with this remake (starting Fall 2021):

$99.99 (plus tax, shipping) you get the Game System "Heroic Tier" which has the same components as the NA (specifically USA)
Game System plus an undisclosed # of Equipment cards (a la, the EU version)
BOX
the cards (treasure, equipment, spells including "dread" bad guy spells, Hero "turn cards," monster cards, artifacts)
character sheets pad
game board
game screen
Tiles (secret doors, traps, blocks, stairs, etc)
instruction book
quest book (14 quests)
6 white combat dice
2 red movement dice
Minis:
(Brown... not sure if any will be gray)
All furniture from the Game System including skulls and rats too
(Red)
4 Heroes: 1 male Wizard, 1 male Barbarian, 1 male Dwarf, 1 female Elf (<---- can we get her in BLUE please? - ed.)
(Green)
8 Orcs (same number of variants as the original but not just their weapon is different, there are two of each design so no "leader" necessarily)
6 Goblins (same number of variants as the original but not just their weapon is different)
3 Abominations (fimir replacement)
(Bone White)
4 Skeletons
2 Zombies
2 Mummies
(Gray)
1 Gargoyle
4 Dread Warriors (chaos warrior replacement)
1 Dread Sorcerer (chaos warlock replacement)
1 Exclusive ("Limited Time") Sir Ragnar (grey?) figure for pledgers (by Nov 6)
4 Pulse Bonus gender swapped Heroes (Female Barbarian, Female Wizard, Female Dwarf, Male Elf; Red? please say we can have BLUE instead! - ed.) - I'm not sure what makes these a bonus.. is it if you pledge? Or does it mean if you order through the website (as opposed to buying it in stores when it finally comes out?)

"Mythic Tier" $149.99 (plus tax & shipping) gets the above plus:

2 BOXES (Kellar's Keep & Return of the Witch Lord remake expansions)
New/Extra Tiles (for the two expansions)
Quest books (10 quests each for 20 total)
And they didn't say it, but if this is a true Remake of the NA versions, then there would be an additional 20 "Artifact" cards.
UNLOCK (for Mythic Pledgers by Nov 6) 6 extra white Combat Dice
Miniatures (using same models as the Game System other than the Exclusives and Unlocks which are new)
(Gray?)
4 extra closed doors (two styles representing "iron" and "reinforced" the replacement for the fancy "wooden" door from the original expansions)
(Green)
8 extra Orcs (total of 10 extra for pledgers, see below)
6 extra Goblins (total of 8 extra for pledgers, see below)
3 extra Abominations
(Bone white)
8 extra Skeletons (total of 10 extra for pledgers, see below)
4 extra Zombies (total of 6 extra for pledgers, see below)
4 extra Mummies
(Gray? Red?)
Exclusive "Mentor" figure for Mythic pledgers (by Nov 6) and alternate "Wizard Hero" (turn) card
Exclusive Witch Lord figure for Mythic pledgers (by Nov 6)
(Green)
Unlock (Mythic Pledgers by Nov 6) 2 Extra Goblins
Unlock (Mythic Pledgers by Nov 6) 2 Extra Orcs
(Bone White)
Unlock (Mythic Pledgers by Nov 6) 2 Extra Skeletons
Unlock (Mythic Pledgers by Nov 6) 2 Extra Zombies
(Red?)
Unlock (Mythic Pledgers by Nov 6) Druid Hero with Hero (turn) Card and 3 spell cards
Unlock (Mythic Pledgers by Nov 6) Warlock Hero with Hero (turn) Card and 3 spell cards
Unlock (Mythic Pledgers by Nov 6) Stephen Baker Quest Book "Prophecy of Telor" (# of actual new Quests unknown)

Did I miss anything? So in total, Mythic folks would have:

18 orcs (16 if you didn't pledge by Nov 6 and buy it later presumably)
14 goblins (12 if you didn't pledge, etc)
8 abominations (or 6 if you didn't pledge, etc)
14 skeletons (or 12 if you didn't pledge, etc)
8 zombies (or 6 if you didn't pledge, etc)
6 mummies
4 dread warriors
1 gargoyle
1 dread sorcerer
1 sir rangar prisoner
1 witch lord
10 heroes (4 if you didn't pledge presumably, etc). I guess technically 11 if you are counting "Mentor"
9 closed doors
and 12 combat dice...


And IF we reach the other goals, you can add the others. Chances are we're likely to Unlock the 2 female mummies (bone white), possibly the the Bard Hero (red?) and the second Quest book "Witch Queen's Torment" of unknown # of additional Quests.

Maybe the Queen of England will pawn some of the crown jewels to get the rest. Is Trump a fan? Or maybe Zuckerberg will see the group on Facebook and get interested. Are Warren Buffet and Bill Gates fans? Has anyone seen George Soros lately? Billy Corgan? I wouldn't ask The Bard to auction off his Beard for the cause! We'll see...

D&D's new motto? If you can't beat 'em (or copy 'em), JOIN 'EM!

[Kurgan]

Forget the dragon, we need a mini of THAT guy.