Heroquest remake by Hasbro - The BIG discussion thread

[Poctuk]

As of now you'll receive 85 Miniatures, not including the furniture, chests, etc, if you bought the Mythic Tier. This is a lot of minis plus the game system for $150

Which seems pretty good if you like them. Shipping rates and tax may vary...

I am lucky to have my childhood HQ still plus some expansion stuff I've bought off ebay, and I'm always trying to find time for painting still. This will be an excellent challenge and I'm very hopeful we can mix and match without looking like an entirely different game

My younger sibling had HQ and the first two expansions from our childhoods. I bought my own NA GS later. Also found a copy for my other sibling.

As for compatibility, unless the figures are really, really tall (not counting weapons or tips of helmets), they should be fully compatible. The original figure bases were between 22 and 25 mm while the squares were only 22 mm. The Remake board's squares are 25.4 mm (if I'm doing my conversions correctly, we don't use the metric system much in the states). So the new bases would be a bit crowded on the old board, but not vice versa. They've stated that the rules and Quests are based directly on the NA (US Edition) with very little change (with all of the featured examples bear out, I have yet to see anything different other than the new bonus Heroes with their new spells).

It’s such a shame that the squares on the new Hasbro board are 1”. Means that none of the old HeroQuest will be compatible. Not the old miniatures and not the old tiles. They really should change this and also provide the oldschool HeroQuest square bases for the new miniatures.

[Poctuk]

See below link for those who requested my Bard character with the mindpoint mechanic, minus the watermarks. (No Orcs here!)

https://www.reddit.com/r/Heroquest/comments/ja6uv9/for_all_you_guys_hating_on_the_new_orc_bard_here/

[Kurgan]

It’s such a shame that the squares on the new Hasbro board are 1”. Means that none of the old HeroQuest will be compatible. Not the old miniatures and not the old tiles. They really should change this and also provide the oldschool HeroQuest square bases for the new miniatures.

Define "not compatible."

"Not absolutely perfect" is one thing, but let's face it, the original miniatures are not "perfect" to the original squares. But they're so close, it really is irrelevant. Still perfectly playable.

1 Inch squares are barely larger than the original squares. So yes, you can put a pit trap on the new square and it will have a slight border around it. Still a Pit. You put the new figure on the new square and it will be fine. You put Classic Hero Quest on the new square and it will just have a little more room. It's not like it'll look like you can put two figures in the same one.

I Agree with you that SQUARE BASES would be better than round bases. Others have pointed out that round bases could be smaller. It depends upon the style of course. I'd like to see a return of the "ovoid hexagons" (which is what many of the original bases really are, not perfect squares). But the only thing that will happen here is that the NEW tiles and Miniatures will probably be too big for the squares on the CLASSIC board. So if you want to mix them together... well you already own the Remake Board, so you can just use that for both.

[Oftkilted]

The new miniatures are all 25mm circular bases.
Circular bases typically need to go “up a base size” when moving from square to circle. (IE a 20mm square base needs to be ~25mm round to avoid placement issues)
So a 25mm round base will likely be able to be re-based to the HeroQuest 23.5mm x 21mm squares. (Should you want to.)

[Kurgan]

Excellent point about re-basing. If Zealot's bases won't work, we always have the uxell plastic end caps.

And now that we're 10 days away from the end of the fundraiser/kickstarter/whatever, how about a brief moment to consider what might have been...

[Oftkilted]

Day 1: $1,000,000 (actually hit 1 million 30min before 24 hours)
Day 2: $267,000 in Sales
Day 3: $151,000 in Sales
Day 4: $102,000 in Sales
Day 5: $65,000 in Sales
Day 6: $52,500 in Sales
Day 7: $39,698 in Sales
Day 8: $43,647 in Sales
Day 9: $38,097 in Sales
Day 10: $34,048 in Sales
Day 11: $26,248 in Sales
Day 12: $24,049 in Sales
Day 13: $21,848 in Sales
Day 14: $20,448 in Sales
Day 15: $15,799 in Sales
Day 16: $19,899 in Sales
Day 17: $134,741 in Sales
Day 18: $25,445 in Sales
Day 19: $19,599 in Sales
Day 20: $17,949 in Sales
Day 21: $15,399 in Sales
Day 22: $14,049 in Sales
Day 23: $198,837 in Sales Total sales as of Day 23: $2,347,191

Day 24: ?
Day 25: ?
Day 26: (total for 24, 25 and 26 = $53,809) to total at $2,401,000
Day 27: $17,836 in Sales Total of $2,418,836 as of 7pm GMT-4
Day 28: $14,899 in sales Total of $2,433,735 as of 7pm GMT-4
Day 29: $63,646 in sales Total of $2,497,381 as of 8:15PM
Day 30: $46,297 in sales Total of $2,543,678 as of 8:25PM
Day 31: $18,049 in sales Total of $2,561,727 as of 8:25PM
Day 32: $17,848 in sales Total of $2,579,575 as of 8:25PM GMT -4
Day 33: $12,950 in sales Total of $2,592,525 as of 8:25PM
Day 34: $16,646 in sales Total of $2,609,171 as of 8:25PM
Day 35: $20,801 in sales Total of $2,629,972 as of 8:25PM

The sales trend dropped to a moving average of ~$17K/Day over the past 5 days (since the 30th.)
8 Day average ~$26K/Day (counting from the 27th)
There are ~10 Days left in the campaign.

The next unlock is the female mummies sculpt.

Overall the numbers are down over the past 5 days when looking at NA, but the international number bumps usually get added about every 6-7 days. There was no “bump” showing up at day 6.

If the 5 day average (which is primarily domestic only) numbers continue at ~$17K/day that will only add approximately $170K to reach ~2.80M. ~$200K shy of the 3M stretch goal.

At ~$20k/Day average like today’s NA sales for the next 10 days would unlock the Alt-sculpt female mummies. If the international totals are being currently added in, that is a different picture. We will have to see whether the typical “bump” occurs on day 7.

The 8 day trend has dropped to ~$26K. That won’t put the final total over 3M without an international bump, so a push for international will depend heavily on international sales, and last minute crowdfund rushes.

To unlock the Bard and additional quest book at 3M, the crowdfunding will need to be hitting ~$37K/day average. (Unless there is a substantial uptick at the end. Which as @Orc26 and others have mentioned is fairly typical. Though in no way guaranteed.) The domestic downward trend over the past week is poor news for the 3M stretch goal and the additional quest book.

[Poctuk]

It’s such a shame that the squares on the new Hasbro board are 1”. Means that none of the old HeroQuest will be compatible. Not the old miniatures and not the old tiles. They really should change this and also provide the oldschool HeroQuest square bases for the new miniatures.

Define "not compatible."

"Not absolutely perfect" is one thing, but let's face it, the original miniatures are not "perfect" to the original squares. But they're so close, it really is irrelevant. Still perfectly playable.

1 Inch squares are barely larger than the original squares. So yes, you can put a pit trap on the new square and it will have a slight border around it. Still a Pit. You put the new figure on the new square and it will be fine. You put Classic Hero Quest on the new square and it will just have a little more room. It's not like it'll look like you can put two figures in the same one.

I Agree with you that SQUARE BASES would be better than round bases. Others have pointed out that round bases could be smaller. It depends upon the style of course. I'd like to see a return of the "ovoid hexagons" (which is what many of the original bases really are, not perfect squares). But the only thing that will happen here is that the NEW tiles and Miniatures will probably be too big for the squares on the CLASSIC board. So if you want to mix them together... well you already own the Remake Board, so you can just use that for both.

Of particular concern to me is that I won't be able to reuse some of the great looking room tiles (5x6 etc.) because once you start moving to this size the discrepancy is magnified by the multiplier effect. ie the old center 5x6 room tile would fit in 4x5 squares on the new board. Just means a lot of the great old content becomes redundant particularly if the tiles contain a bridge or lava etc. and actually change the way in which the room is carved up. They should just keep it the same scale and not try to tie it in with the scale of their D&D brand.

[Oftkilted]

The advantage that you have is that nearly all of the tiles are available digitally and you can reprint them at the correct size to match the new board.

The old tiles were printed on thin flimsy cardboard sheets. Basically thick card stock. People have been making upsized custom HeroQuest boards for a long time. Mainly because there were no new boards being released and they wanted to play with standard figure sizes. Which meant figures on (for the most part) 25mm bases.

So, scan the old board in at 400DPI and print it out at the larger sizes.

[Pancho]

And now that we're 10 days away from the end of the fundraiser/kickstarter/whatever, how about a brief moment to consider what might have been...

I joined the Inn after the Heroquest 25 thing played out, so I never even heard about it at the time. But looking at your link...jeez, those miniatures were exceptional. Could you imagine if we got those!?

It was a legal issue over ownership wasn’t it? If so, it kind of makes me wonder why the Heroquest 25 guys didn’t just rebrand the name and tweak a few rules and release it anyway, because they had an exceptional product really. Heck, why didn’t they just release the miniatures for that matter? They could have sold bucket loads.

[Orc26]

The whole "Classic HeroQuest" thing comes across as some inept people did a thing on the internet, and for reasons people threw money at them. From what little digging I have done it looks like at least some of the minis and some of the boxes were actually made... so right now there is a room somewhere with piles of really nice minis and empty boxes with better art collecting dust.

As far as my minimal looking around the internet turned up they could have legally sold and distributed what they were making in Spain at least and probably a few other countries, but just not the US because copyright issues with the HeroQuest pen and paper RPG (that had nothing to do with the HeroQuest board game)