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Re: Final boss question

PostPosted: Friday November 9th, 2018 8:26am
by The Admiral
wallydubbs wrote:I've done away with the Elven Chainmail as there is no artifact card for it. But I suppose one could just use Borin's Armor for reference.


Ouch! You just made a really tough quest harder.

Re: Final boss question

PostPosted: Monday November 12th, 2018 8:39am
by wallydubbs
The Admiral wrote:
wallydubbs wrote:I've done away with the Elven Chainmail as there is no artifact card for it. But I suppose one could just use Borin's Armor for reference.


Ouch! You just made a really tough quest harder.


In case it wasn't clear I've replaced Elven Chainmail with Elven Bracers... and I'm making adjustments to make the solo quests easier.

Re: Final boss question

PostPosted: Friday November 30th, 2018 9:08pm
by j_dean80
wallydubbs wrote:I've done away with the Elven Chainmail as there is no artifact card for it. But I suppose one could just use Borin's Armor for reference.


The text for the Elven Chain Mail doesn't mention a matching artifact card like every other given artifact does. I think it is meant as a one off item.
After the Quest has been completed, tell the Elf that Queen Terrellia rewards his success with a set of magical Elven Chain Mail armor. This armor gives the Elf 2 extra defend dice. It may be combined with a helmet and shield.


The Elven Bracers can be given at a different time.

Re: Final boss question

PostPosted: Sunday December 2nd, 2018 12:59am
by wallydubbs
j_dean80 wrote:
wallydubbs wrote:I've done away with the Elven Chainmail as there is no artifact card for it. But I suppose one could just use Borin's Armor for reference.


The text for the Elven Chain Mail doesn't mention a matching artifact card like every other given artifact does. I think it is meant as a one off item.
After the Quest has been completed, tell the Elf that Queen Terrellia rewards his success with a set of magical Elven Chain Mail armor. This armor gives the Elf 2 extra defend dice. It may be combined with a helmet and shield.


The Elven Bracers can be given at a different time.


Most artifacts in this quest book (Asides from the Treasure Without Doom scroll) are one off items, as are all the artifacts in the original game system.
I thought you agreed with Phoenix's idea in his revision of the Quest Book, that the Chainmail was an error. As the Elven Bracers are never found anywhere in these quests and there is no matching artifact card for the Chainmail, it is safe to assume, since this was never playtested, it was meant to be "a set of Magical Elven Bracers."
What would be the point of adding an artifact card for an Artifact that can't be found? It also seems completely out of the ordinary for there to be a usable artifact without a corresponding card.

Re: Final boss question

PostPosted: Sunday December 2nd, 2018 12:59pm
by j_dean80
wallydubbs wrote:
j_dean80 wrote:
wallydubbs wrote:I've done away with the Elven Chainmail as there is no artifact card for it. But I suppose one could just use Borin's Armor for reference.


The text for the Elven Chain Mail doesn't mention a matching artifact card like every other given artifact does. I think it is meant as a one off item.
After the Quest has been completed, tell the Elf that Queen Terrellia rewards his success with a set of magical Elven Chain Mail armor. This armor gives the Elf 2 extra defend dice. It may be combined with a helmet and shield.


The Elven Bracers can be given at a different time.


Most artifacts in this quest book (Asides from the Treasure Without Doom scroll) are one off items, as are all the artifacts in the original game system.
I thought you agreed with Phoenix's idea in his revision of the Quest Book, that the Chainmail was an error. As the Elven Bracers are never found anywhere in these quests and there is no matching artifact card for the Chainmail, it is safe to assume, since this was never playtested, it was meant to be "a set of Magical Elven Bracers."
What would be the point of adding an artifact card for an Artifact that can't be found? It also seems completely out of the ordinary for there to be a usable artifact without a corresponding card.


Think you misunderstood my statement about one off item.

Example:
If the Elf searches for treasure in this room, there is an Elixir of Life hidden in one of the bookcases. (See the matching artifact card in the Game System.)


Notice how it specifically mentions an artifact card?

The Elven Chain Mail does not mention an artifact card, it merely describes what the item does. If it was a "typo" for Elven Bracers then it would mention an artifact card.

I don't use Phoenix's version as I have my own copy of the Quest Pack. I was only mentioning what he had done.