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How to chose Elf Spells

Discuss Quests, Cards, Monsters etc, from the Elf Quest Pack: The Mage of the Mirror.

Can the Elf select the spells or no?

Yes, take three spell you like the most;
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No, draw three random cards;
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I don't know;
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Re: How to chose Elf Spells

Postby moundbz » September 23rd, 2023, 10:23 am

I think the player can pick which spells he/she wants to use. Some expansions(Kellers keep, Return of the witch Lord) say that you can pick a spell scroll at random. Since these expansions were before Mage of the Mirror, doesn't that set precedent? I feel the word random would have been used if the player was intended to blindly pick elf spells. It is a fun option for a table to pick random, but I think majority of the table should agree on thus.
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Re: How to chose Elf Spells

Postby Kurgan » September 23rd, 2023, 1:57 pm

Yeah the intention is to pick three spells you want. The trouble is knowing them well enough to know what you'll need. Normally you're allowed to pick new spells each quest. Time Stop, Hypnotic Blaze and Flash Back seem like good choices. Two are situational but can be game-changers. Random is certainly going to be more challenging.


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Re: How to chose Elf Spells

Postby Aki » October 3rd, 2023, 3:40 am

MOTM is hard level, select the most powerful spells
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Re: How to chose Elf Spells

Postby The Admiral » October 3rd, 2023, 5:18 am

Twist Wood...bluurrgh! :?


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Re: How to chose Elf Spells

Postby lestodante » October 3rd, 2023, 3:04 pm

yes, it is weird and badly worded, but can be useful against monsters with bows or crossbows


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Re: How to chose Elf Spells

Postby The Admiral » October 3rd, 2023, 3:22 pm

lestodante wrote:yes, it is weird and badly worded, but can be useful against monsters with bows or crossbows


The odds of the combo is low. I've yet to see it actually work in action, but, hey, you never know.


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Re: How to chose Elf Spells

Postby Kurgan » November 4th, 2024, 4:27 pm

Not that the HQ Companion App is the end-all be all of rules, but it is interesting that it basically turns any monster attack (well I haven't tested it on Mummies or specters yet) into 1 die.

It makes a certain amount of sense though... just about every weapon you could imagine in the games has some wood in it, and would lose function if that wood was suddenly destroyed (similar to the idea of targeting metal in a piece of equipment... though keep in mind the "Rust" from NA/remake only targets helmets and swords, while the version from Wizards of Morcar targets any equipment, doesn't say anything about metal!).


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Re: How to chose Elf Spells

Postby wallydubbs » November 5th, 2024, 9:42 pm

Kurgan wrote:Not that the HQ Companion App is the end-all be all of rules, but it is interesting that it basically turns any monster attack (well I haven't tested it on Mummies or specters yet) into 1 die.

It makes a certain amount of sense though... just about every weapon you could imagine in the games has some wood in it, and would lose function if that wood was suddenly destroyed (similar to the idea of targeting metal in a piece of equipment... though keep in mind the "Rust" from NA/remake only targets helmets and swords, while the version from Wizards of Morcar targets any equipment, doesn't say anything about metal!).


The App might do that, but that's making this spell overly powerful. I allow it to work only on ranged weapons: Orc Archers, Skeleton Archers, Elven Archers and Crossbowmen. If there are multiple bowmen it will work on all you can see. Otherwise if this takes precedents over all monsters it's unfair to the Fear spell. It's too powerful in that regards. Slow has lasting effects with the only stipulation being the Elf has to see the monster.


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Re: How to chose Elf Spells

Postby Kurgan » November 6th, 2024, 1:41 am

The other time when Twist Wood can damage "wooden" weapons is with the reflecting spell rebound (mirror magic). Thus if it hits a Hero's weapon it can destroy a staff or crossbow... at the very least. Shields are called wood by Avalon Hill these days, so there's another but you could say it's "armor" rather than a "weapon."

Granted, an Elf that possesses the Ancient Staff will probably win the "spell tennis match" with a Dread Sorcerer, but still.


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Re: How to chose Elf Spells

Postby wallydubbs » November 8th, 2024, 1:15 am

Kurgan wrote:The other time when Twist Wood can damage "wooden" weapons is with the reflecting spell rebound (mirror magic). Thus if it hits a Hero's weapon it can destroy a staff or crossbow... at the very least. Shields are called wood by Avalon Hill these days, so there's another but you could say it's "armor" rather than a "weapon."

Granted, an Elf that possesses the Ancient Staff will probably win the "spell tennis match" with a Dread Sorcerer, but still.


I can see your point on that one. Though the Ancient Staff is overpowered. Considering it is a Staff, I houserule it that the Elf has to have the Ancient Staff equipped as a weapon to use it. It's extremely powerful, no doubt, but the Elf is stuck with the choice: great magical defense but poor offense or work with a good offensive weapon but not able to reverse the spells.


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