Swinging Blade Traps

[Kurgan]

The Falling Block Trap (in NA rules) gives you one more square to move out of the way of the block and then that's it (whether you take any damage or not which you probably will). You're right about a missed Spear trap not stopping movement. Also a Wandering Monster trap doesn't end your turn either. Phoenix's combined rules book is really nifty but it doesn't take into account the difference between Swinging Blade traps (ATOH) and Swinging AXE traps (BQP) which despite the similar symbol, function quite differently.

[iKarith]

We need a revision?

[Kurgan]

Not really a revision, just an addition (Swinging Axe Trap) would make Phoenix's extra big NA rulebook more or less complete.

[Davane]

From the HQ CERB I am working on:

Traps are triggered whenever a Hero moves onto a trapped square or opens a trapped chest without searching, as shown on the Quest map. The Evil Wizard must tell a Hero when he has set off a Trap. The Hero must stop immediately and can do nothing else until his next turn, unless the trap states otherwise.

If a Hero does not search for traps and moves onto a Pit Trap square, he automatically springs the Trap. If a Hero moves onto a Pit Trap square, the Evil Wizard will stop them by saying, "You have just stumbled into a Pit!" Any Hero who stumbles into a Pit Trap will automatically lose one Body Point in the fall. The Evil Wizard will then put a Pit Trap Tile on that square (under the Hero figure). This ends Hero's turn. They must then record the Body Point damage on their Character Sheet.

The affected Heroes must now make a decision. They can either move ahead to an adjacent unoccupied square, or move back to an adjacent empty space. Remember, the Trap space is now a permanent block in the game. Their decision is a critical one. They could become trapped forever, or they could be cut off from the rest of the Heroes. If the Hero triggering this trap is affected, this ends their turn.

Any Hero who triggers a Spear Trap will lose one Body Point if they roll a Skull on a Combat Die. This ends their turn.
If the Hero rolls either a Black Shield or a White Shield, they have dodged out of the way of the spear. They may then continue with their move.

If a Hero searches a Room or Passage for Treasure before searching the room for Traps, any Treasure Chest or Furniture Traps in the room will be sprung, ending their turn. They then suffer the consequences described to the Evil Wizard in the Quest Notes.

With the exception of a missed Spear trap, all traps cause those affected to end their turn, meaning they end their movement and can not take any actions if they haven't taken their action yet.

I want to note that the HQ CERB uses a combination of UK and US rules, especially for Falling Rock traps. For Falling Rock traps, if there is an arrow marked on the Quest Map, the Falling Rock falls in that square (UK), or falls on the square marked by the Trap (US). All affected Heroes get the chance to move to an adjacent space, even if it is not their turn. If the triggering hero is affected (i.e. there's no arrow marked), then they must end their turn.

[wallydubbs]

With the exception of a missed Spear trap, all traps cause those affected to end their turn, meaning they end their movement and can not take any actions if they haven't taken their action yet.

I want to note that the HQ CERB uses a combination of UK and US rules, especially for Falling Rock traps. For Falling Rock traps, if there is an arrow marked on the Quest Map, the Falling Rock falls in that square (UK), or falls on the square marked by the Trap (US). All affected Heroes get the chance to move to an adjacent space, even if it is not their turn. If the triggering hero is affected (i.e. there's no arrow marked), then they must end their turn.

I do believe there is an exception, though not stated as such, in the rule book.
I believe it states that if the Wizard or Elf has healing spell and haven't used an action for their turn, they may cast this spell to save themselves from death.

[Davane]

With the exception of a missed Spear trap, all traps cause those affected to end their turn, meaning they end their movement and can not take any actions if they haven't taken their action yet.

I want to note that the HQ CERB uses a combination of UK and US rules, especially for Falling Rock traps. For Falling Rock traps, if there is an arrow marked on the Quest Map, the Falling Rock falls in that square (UK), or falls on the square marked by the Trap (US). All affected Heroes get the chance to move to an adjacent space, even if it is not their turn. If the triggering hero is affected (i.e. there's no arrow marked), then they must end their turn.

I do believe there is an exception, though not stated as such, in the rule book.
I believe it states that if the Wizard or Elf has healing spell and haven't used an action for their turn, they may cast this spell to save themselves from death.

This exception is stated under the rules for dying and saving a hero. It's essentially treating Heal Body and Water of Healing as if they were Potions of Healing, which can be used any time.

[Bareheaded Warrior]

So in summary

Q. When a Hero triggers the swinging blade does he get to continue his movement, does this depend on whether he is successful in his defence or not, what does successful mean, no skulls rolled (failed attack), skulls rolled but sufficient shields rolled to cancel them all out (no damage), skulls rolled but at least one shield rolled?

A. Turn ends when triggered.

Q. Is it a one-time trap or does it continue swinging?

A. Nothing indicates that it continues swinging, that is a perfectly reasonable misunderstanding caused by the apparent similarity between the Swinging Axe Trap and the Swinging Blade Trap which are in fact completely different (of course!)

Q. Whilst we know that monsters don’t trigger traps, if a Hero triggers this trap and a monster is in the shaded area does it get hit?

A. Consensus is that they do get hit. However the reason why monsters don't trigger traps is that they know where they are (trial and error, so any existing monsters by default have learned) and tread carefully avoid triggering them. If that logic holds then presumably when a monster sees a Hero step onto the trigger square, it would realise what was about to happen and pin itself to the wall of the corridor...possibly?

Q. Why does a Hero get to defend against this trap but not any other trap? Huge scary blade … but 2 combat dice with defend permitted is basically a Goblin attack? I was, before reading the rules, expecting this to be a 3 combat dice, no defend or possibly a 2 combat dice, no defend but 2 combat dice with defend - is a little lame...

Q. Is it worth removing the Spear Trap exception that allows the Hero to continue moving if he doesn't suffer damage to simplify the traps (as in the EU/UK version?)

Q. Is it worth replacing the Swinging Axe traps in Frozen Horror with Swinging Blade traps?