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Equipment Redefined

Postby mainat » Monday March 18th, 2013 12:29pm

An area I felt that could have been done better in HQ was the consistent definition of weapons and armor (mostly weapons) through keywords. Things like the Battle Axe and Staff that say "can't be used with shield". Why can't it be used with the shield? Well, because they are two handed weapons. So I've gone through the existing weapons (including the UK weapons) and using their descriptions have come up with the following keywords: Two Handed, Ranged, Thrown, and Reach. In addition to that I added the ever popular Dual Wield keyword and redefined the Thrown keyword so it's more useful (it would be an interesting poll question to see how many people actually throw any of their weapons). The updated armory can be found attached. This is what I use for my players to buy from. Apologies for the lack of any kind of cool art, it's pretty much a text file.

I came up with new costs based on the following formula:
100 for every attack dice
-25 for Two Handed
50 for Dual Wield
25 for Reach
25 for Thrown
50 for Ranged
So for example the spear which has two attack dice (200), has reach(25), and thrown(25); so it costs 250 gold.

Let me know of any questions, thoughts or suggestions!
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Re: Equipment Redefined

Postby Sjeng » Monday March 18th, 2013 12:40pm

This is amazing! Aside from the fact that the EU staff is 2 attack dice (but also more expensive) I love this chart! I'm making an alternative armoury myself, and I am definitely going to use this if I may :)
I love the keywords, makes everything much much clearer. It was definitely lacking.

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Re: Equipment Redefined

Postby torilen » Monday March 18th, 2013 1:59pm

I actually used a similar thought line when putting together my expanded equipment. I changed
the price of some things, added some weapons and armor and such. I had the same thoughts...
add a little more if it could be used for a reach weapon, or two handed, etc. I don't think I ever
wrote it out with such detail. But good job. That should help others with pricing and making new
weapons, should they desire to do so.


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Re: Equipment Redefined

Postby mainat » Monday March 18th, 2013 2:36pm

Definitely use the material, it's why I shared. Maybe somebody out their with mad art skills and the tools will make a better looking version!

You know that's great insight! I guess I never though about using the keywords and cost formula as a means to create new weapons. But you're right, it makes it super easy. I was able to come up with 4 new weapons in less then 5 minutes.

Short bow (210 gold) 2 attack dice, two handed, ranged
Long bow (410 gold) 4 attack dice, two handed, ranged
Mace (350 gold) 3 Attack dice, Dual Wield
Boomerang (135 gold) 1 Attack dice, Ranged -- Usable by the wizard of course! :D


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Re: Equipment Redefined

Postby drathe » Monday March 18th, 2013 3:52pm

Only issue I have now is with the dagger becoming even more useless than it was before. Very few people purchase themas throwing weapons at 25 gold, now at 175 they're sure to never buy one. Just save another 75 for the shortsword if they want dual-wield.

The rest is great and the formula works well with everything else.
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Re: Equipment Redefined

Postby Sjeng » Monday March 18th, 2013 4:00pm

the boomerang is a great idea if t always comes back at you! :D superb!

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Re: Equipment Redefined

Postby mainat » Monday March 18th, 2013 4:07pm

I agree, the thrown attribute was pretty useless before as you were literally throwing away money. I can honestly say I never played with anyone who threw their dagger (let alone the more expensive spear or axe). And that's why I updated the Thrown definition to once you throw the dagger (in this case), you can go and retrieve it so not to permanently lose it. This makes it much more versatile and much more likely to be used on a regular basis.

Yeah, I kind of like the boomerang. In the 10 seconds I thought about it; I figure it makes more sense for it to be Ranged instead of Thrown (even though it's a throwing action).


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Re: Equipment Redefined

Postby Templar » Monday March 18th, 2013 4:23pm

This is a great modification of the cards. |_P I have done something similar, but with percentages for modifying costs.

Personally, I like the blunt way of describing how a weapon works, but your way is much, much easier and less spacy.

And these kinds of formulas is, as you say, a wonderful way of thinking up new weapons to use. I'm up to 37 now :D
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Re: Equipment Redefined

Postby The Road Warrior » Monday March 18th, 2013 4:37pm

mainat wrote:I can honestly say I never played with anyone who threw their dagger (let alone the more expensive spear or axe).


I have thrown a spear before :x
(but I did have enough gold to buy 10 replacements)
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Re: Equipment Redefined

Postby Sjeng » Wednesday March 20th, 2013 4:40pm

I'd like to see more weapon ideas. Please post them. I'll add the ones I find usefull to my new armoury.

Why did you make ranged cost 35g instead of for example 50g? It's a pretty good benefit. Just wondering.

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