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Q3: Lair of the Orc Warlord: NA vs EU differences (Spoilers)

PostPosted: Saturday February 1st, 2020 11:20am
by Kurgan
So reading off the scans of the EU version of Quest 3 ("Lair of the Orc Warlord") vs the NA version I noticed some differences:

EU Version: 100 gold coins to the one who kills Ulag alone.
NA version: 180 gold coins to be divided when Ulag dies.
(And other treasure found may be kept by the finder alone)

NA Version: A: Hero finds Staff.
EU Version: C: Hero finds Spear.

NA Version: B: Hero finds 24 gold coins, Potion of Healing (+4)
EU Version: A: Hero finds 30 gold coins, Potion of Healing (+4)

NA Version: Unmarked chest. Empty?
EU Version: B: chest contains an unidentified trap (-1 Body) and 100 gold coins

So now we see that Phoenix's version is a faithful re-creation of the NA version, including this "error" of the unmarked chest. Clearly the NA map-makers goofed up and left out the entry.

NA Version: Ulag stats: has 2 body points
EU Version: Ulag stats: has 1 body point (like all monsters)

In the NA version a Fimir was moved from the room before the battle with Ulag to a formerly empty room. Goblins and an Orc were added to Ulag's room.

"Premiere Edition" vs. EU Edition: no differences noted.

Re: Q3: Lair of the Orc Warlord: NA vs EU differences (Spoil

PostPosted: Saturday February 1st, 2020 11:35am
by Kurgan
And now a proposed "fix" for the NA version:

C: This chest contains an exploding lock. Any Hero who searches for Treasure without disarming the trap will lose one Body Point. The chest contains 100 gold coins.

Re: Q3: Lair of the Orc Warlord: NA vs EU differences (Spoil

PostPosted: Saturday February 1st, 2020 12:00pm
by Kurgan

Re: Q3: Lair of the Orc Warlord: NA vs EU differences (Spoil

PostPosted: Sunday September 27th, 2020 5:00pm
by Kurgan
It will be interesting to see if the new HeroQuest Remake (of 2021) will implement these fixes. Supposedly there will be "minor changes" based on the NA version. Let's hope so! These were perfectly playable back in the day but it may have tripped up a few Zargon players at first back in the day as it does today when someone tries one of these quests for the first time.

Re: Q3: Lair of the Orc Warlord: NA vs EU differences (Spoil

PostPosted: Monday September 28th, 2020 3:59pm
by The1Lion
There are a lot of differences in each quest between the two versions. The spear isn't even in the original NA version.

Re: Q3: Lair of the Orc Warlord: NA vs EU differences (Spoil

PostPosted: Tuesday September 29th, 2020 8:52am
by Kurgan
Very true about the different weapons. I grew up with the NA version. I like to blend the two now, it feels more complete.

I posted a link to a bunch of quest map fixes here.