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Custom EU cards [Elf spells]

Postby Sjeng » Thursday July 26th, 2012 8:09am

Hi! I've finished the Elf spells EU format cards. I've only changed 2 spells: Hypnotic Blaze was a bit overpowered in my opinion, especially in the EU games, where monsters mostly only have 1 BP, so I changed it a bit, weakenig it. I also changed the Twist Wood spell, to be more usefull. Let me know what you think!

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Re: Custom EU cards [Elf spells]

Postby Daedalus » Saturday July 28th, 2012 10:15pm

I agree that Hypnotic Blaze is overpowered, but I think Twist Wood is undersold. From a previous thread:

Daedalus wrote:This spell is useful against more than just elven monsters, so it has greater value than the text on the card indicates. It affects fully half of the monsters from the base set! Both the Fimir's and Chaos Warrior's monster cards show battle axes with wooden handles. Also sporting a wooden handle are the Skeleton's scythe and the Zombie's pole cleaver. An enemy halberdier Mercenary (not to mention an enemy crossbow Mercenary) will also be affected. An Ogre is basically castrated by this spell, affecting a Warrior's club, a Champion's and Chieftain's axe, and a Lord's mace. That's a lot less hurt to the Heroes. I figure a monster with a twisted weapon would be reduced to a single attack die, like a Hero with no weapon from Quest 6, Legacy of the Orc Warlord. An Ogre Chieftain and Ogre Lord should retain 2 attack dice as they are also armed with spiked gauntlets. -edit

As a bonus, a spear trap could also be disarmed by this spell, since a spear is a weapon with a wooden shaft. Same could apply to a swinging axe trap from the BQP expansion.
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Re: Custom EU cards [Elf spells]

Postby Sjeng » Sunday July 29th, 2012 4:31am

true, but the thing is, it's a whole spell for slightly weakening one single monster. It's not that powerfull, even if you can include iron weapons. But with your comment in mind, I'll give it another look. I might include a second version of the spell in the PDF, so you can choose which one you prefer :)

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Re: Custom EU cards [Elf spells]

Postby knightkrawler » Sunday July 29th, 2012 5:39am

I simply assign attack dice to different monsters for weaponless combat:
a goblin will try to escape and raise alarm by opening doors;
orcs, fimir, zombie, skeleton, skaven: 1 AD (white shields hit);
chaos warriors: 1 AD (skull and black shield hit);
gargoyle: not applicable; in my game, a gargoyle is in fact an animated statue which means he can't lose his weapons;
mummy: I think I'm gonna give my mummies weapons (mini conversions, that is) and when they have them, they get 2 AD weaponless (white shields hit).
ogres: 3 AD (skulls hit)

That's my solution to that problem; the Twist Wood spell is useful as is in my game.
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Re: Custom EU cards [Elf spells]

Postby Sjeng » Monday July 30th, 2012 6:20am

the original text is also very useless. It only states that it twists wooden weapons. So then what? monsters can't attack at all?
I think I'll leave it like I made it. Elves probably won't choose that card anyway :P You can only have 3, and there are better spells to use.

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Re: Custom EU cards [Elf spells]

Postby knightkrawler » Monday July 30th, 2012 12:43pm

Daedalus posted a list of weapons with enough wood in or on them to castrate the use of them
and I agree with him.
Practically everything except swords and daggers is affected, in my humble opinion.
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Re: Custom EU cards [Elf spells]

Postby Sjeng » Monday July 30th, 2012 4:38pm

yeah, but if you do that, and an Elf player chooses this card, the DM will simply use the goblins and orcs with swords a lot instead of the cleavers, axes and flails. in my opinion, an orc is an orc and a goblin is a goblin, regardless of the miniature you use. So to keep it fair, and mostly to keep it from getting confusing, I just let it affect all weapons. It's just 1 monster losing 1 attack die. No big deal.

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