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Postby Fullork345 » Thursday June 16th, 2016 1:55am

How accurate is phenoix's recreation?
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Re: A question about the quest in the back of this.

Postby slev » Thursday June 16th, 2016 12:24pm

Phonex and I worked on that together.

It matches everything on the back of the box.

The "quest" on the box isn't finished though, so we had to make some assumptions to fill in the missing bits!


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Re: A question about the quest in the back of this.

Postby Daedalus » Wednesday March 14th, 2018 8:34pm

Accurate information is pictured for rooms A and B (see here.) Originally, both chests in room B were empty. That being said, the Quest definitely needed some additions to be playable--particularly stats and spells for the Deathmaster. If you check out the promotional leaflet included in the box here, it can be seen a good deal more was actually part of this Quest. Too bad out the text in the tiny image is hopelessly illegible.
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Re: A question about the quest in the back of this.

Postby Oftkilted » Thursday October 22nd, 2020 10:56pm

Interestingly the back of the box appears to have the orcs with bows in addition to their standard weapons. Not the crossbows in the remake. It appears to read that they can either use bows or their normal weapons to attack with three attack dice.
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Re: A question about the quest in the back of this.

Postby lestodante » Friday October 23rd, 2020 2:09pm

More information about "The Plague of Zombies" can be found in this topic: The Plague of Zombies - List of non-English 'official' quests
There is also a better scan I did some time ago. |_P


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Re: A question about the quest in the back of this.

Postby Oftkilted » Friday October 23rd, 2020 2:55pm

Very handy! That is indeed a much better scan than I had access to previously! (There’s a lot of stuff in the hidden depths of the forum!)
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Re: A question about the quest in the back of this.

Postby Zenithfleet » Sunday November 1st, 2020 9:50am

Daedalus wrote:Accurate information is pictured for rooms A and B (see here.) Originally, both chests in room B were empty. That being said, the Quest definitely needed some additions to be playable--particularly stats and spells for the Deathmaster. If you check out the promotional leaflet included in the box here, it can be seen a good deal more was actually part of this Quest. Too bad out the text in the tiny image is hopelessly illegible.


Hey, that's fascinating.

I just put the Plague of Zombies into HeroScribe myself to come up with my own EU version, and was impressed at how playable it already was. A lot of effort to go through just for a promotional pic on the back of the ADK box. It certainly has none of the problems that those White Dwarf quests have!

Those detailed notes (in two columns!) in the promo flyer are even more impressive. No published EU quest used two columns that I know of, even though you can fit more text on the page that way.

I wonder if the Plague was originally a complete Quest that the designers couldn't fit into any published pack, so they ended up using it as the basis for the ADK photo? There must have been Quests that were cut for space during the development process.

Hmm... also... on that promo flyer, both the Kellar's Keep and Return of the Witch Lord questbooks just say 'Quest Book' on the covers. That matches my official Kellar's Keep book, but not my Return of the Witch Lord book (which has the title of the pack on it). I wonder if they changed it in later printings, or if all runs of KK were printed as 'Quest Book' but all RotWL were given the title?
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Re: A question about the quest in the back of this.

Postby Oftkilted » Sunday November 1st, 2020 10:42am

Based on some pictures lestodante posted there are extremely minor differences. The orcs with “crossbows” in the Phoenix edition have bows in the version lestodante posted. So they can attack with their full damage at both melee and range.

As you went through the quests did you also notice that there are fewer monsters placed? And fewer traps?
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Re: A question about the quest in the back of this.

Postby lestodante » Sunday November 1st, 2020 7:45pm

Zenithfleet wrote:Hmm... also... on that promo flyer, both the Kellar's Keep and Return of the Witch Lord questbooks just say 'Quest Book' on the covers. That matches my official Kellar's Keep book, but not my Return of the Witch Lord book (which has the title of the pack on it). I wonder if they changed it in later printings, or if all runs of KK were printed as 'Quest Book' but all RotWL were given the title?


All UK Kellar's Keep has "Quest Book" written on the questbook instead of "Kellar's Keep". Italian version and many other countries has the real name.
Return of the Witch Lord is written correctly instead. Many images used on flyers or back of the boxes were featuring demo stuff.
I've always wondered where that door placed at the bottom corridor of Plague of Zombies may lead to...


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Re: A question about the quest in the back of this.

Postby Zenithfleet » Monday November 2nd, 2020 4:06am

Oftkilted wrote:Based on some pictures lestodante posted there are extremely minor differences. The orcs with “crossbows” in the Phoenix edition have bows in the version lestodante posted. So they can attack with their full damage at both melee and range.


In the EU rules, 'these orcs have bows with three dice' is mechanically the same as 'these orcs have crossbows'. Six of one, half a dozen of the other.

When I was talking about comparing the Quests, I meant the one on the back of the ADK compared to the one in the promotional leaflet (with its dense two columns of text).

Oftkilted wrote:As you went through the quests did you also notice that there are fewer monsters placed? And fewer traps?


Sorry, was this directed at me? I'm not sure what you mean by fewer monsters / fewer traps.

I didn't look at Phoenix's NA version (much). I just took the ADK photo and did my own HeroScribe EU-style map. Though strangely enough, I made the Chaos Sorcerer a statue, and only later found out that Legolasbaker apparently did much the same thing! :?
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