5. HQ25 - Spells, tiles, mechanics and misc

[Gold Bearer]

Slight rewording and added a holy water cure rule.

Swamp Zombies
Movement: 4. Attack: 2. Defend: 3. Body Points: 3. Mind Points: 0.
Swamp zombies are putrid undead creatures that carry deadly diseases. Any non undead or swamp based character wounded by a swamp zombie rolls a combat dice each (just roll once in the case of multiple wounds in one attack) time they are wounded by a swamp zombie. On the roll of a skull they suffer an additional body point of damage. On the roll of a black shield they suffer an additional body point of damage and are infected with a cocktail of foul diseases and roll a combat dice at the start of each of their turns. On a black shield the target suffers one body point of damage and on a white shield the diseases are fought off. Any character killed by swamp disease becomes a swamp zombie and can't be resurrected by an elixir of life. Swamp disease can be cured by drinking holy water, which is then discarded.

Disease
A target in sight is infected with a putrid swamp disease and rolls a combat dice immediately and at the start of each of their turns. On a black shield the target suffers one body point of damage and on a white shield the spell wears off. Doesn't affect undead or swamp/marsh/bog creatures. Any character killed by swamp disease becomes a swamp zombie and can't be resurrected by an elixir of life. Swamp disease can be cured by drinking holy water, which is then discarded.

[Sjeng]

Yup. I was typing on my phone, and I always keep things brief, which can lead to unclarity...

But yes, the pimped Fimir spells were just a little project I did to fit those spells in better with the EU card sets I made, and they should stay seperate fropm HQ25.
I like the idea of Swamp Spells for this quest pack. Fimir can use them, but also any other Bog monster, like the kobolds, should someone use a kobold shaman.
We can of course draw inspiration from the Fimir spells, but we've got plenty of ideas already, so I think we're doing fine. And we all seem to be on the same page indeed

About the Swamp zombies: reword it a bit. Now it reads as: "Any non undead or swamp based character..." Why would a swamp based character be attacked by swamp zombies? (you see?) I know you mean non swamp based character, but it took me a few reads to get it. Also, this doesn't read well: "rolls a combat dice each (just roll once in the case of multiple wounds in one attack) time".

These are probably just ideas right now, and we need to review all spell ideas after we choose 6, and then reword them to fit on a card and be clear, so there won't be any misinterpretation.

[Gold Bearer]

Yea they still need a bit of rewording.

I really can't understand why we'd want to limit the swamp deck to just six spells though? I think more like ten or twelve would be much better, as long as we like those spells.

Pimped talisman spells, buddy, friend and pal? Whether they make into this or not. X

[Teldurn]

Fogwalkers

[knightkrawler]

Fogwalkers

I like that one, too.
6 spells was my number for a spell deck cause it's analogous to the WoM spell decks.
Could be changed, but concerning HQ spells I understandably have an affinity to numbers divisible by 3. I'd prefer 6 to 9 or even more.
Any swamp magicuser could also have regular chaos spells.

[Gold Bearer]

Fogwalkers

Marshwalkers?

6 spells was my number for a spell deck cause it's analogous to the WoM spell decks.
Could be changed, but concerning HQ spells I understandably have an affinity to numbers divisible by 3. I'd prefer 6 to 9 or even more.

Twelve.

Marshwalkers
Movement: 4. Attack: 2. Defend: 3. Body Points: 3. Mind Points: 0.
Marshwalkers are are putrid undead swamp zombies that carry deadly diseases. Any character wounded by a swamp zombie rolls a combat dice each time (just roll once in the case of multiple wounds in one attack) they are wounded by a swamp zombie. On the roll of a skull they suffer an additional body point of damage. On the roll of a black shield they suffer an additional body point of damage and are infected with a cocktail of foul diseases and roll a combat dice at the start of each of their turns. On a black shield the target suffers one body point of damage and on a white shield the diseases are fought off. Any character killed by swamp disease becomes a swamp zombie and can't be resurrected by an elixir of life. Swamp disease can be cured by drinking holy water, which is then discarded.

I'll change the name to fogwalkers or keep it as swamp zombies if people prefer and add the no undead or swamp based condition if reflection from my talsiman spell set makes it in.

So how big is that toxic cloud tile?

[Teldurn]

The sound of 4 consonants next to each other MaRSHWalkers doesn't make it roll off the tongue as easily as Fogwalkers, in my humble opinion. Plus, Fogwalkers has that "fah wah" sound going for it, which is nice.

I also don't have a strong opinion either way regarding 6, 9, or 12 spells. But only those three number options, nothing else. And finally, I like the description Gold Bearer wrote. It's a bit wordy and I don't know if that will fit on a card, but I don't have any constructive way to minimize the text.
My single suggested change would be to make the parenthetical into a separate sentence itself: "Any character wounded by a swamp zombie rolls a combat dice each time they are wounded by a swamp zombie. Just roll once in the case of multiple wounds in one attack."

[Gold Bearer]

Bloody wording errors again. It's a good job I don't speak like that.

Fogwalkers
Movement: 4. Attack: 2. Defend: 3. Body Points: 3. Mind Points: 0.
Fogwalkers are putrid undead swamp zombies that carry deadly diseases. Any character wounded by a fogwalker rolls one combat dice (regardless of how many wounds they suffer). On the roll of a skull they suffer an additional body point of damage. On the roll of a black shield they suffer an additional body point of damage and are infected with a cocktail of foul diseases and roll a combat dice at the start of each of their turns. On a black shield they suffer one body point of damage and on a white shield the diseases are fought off. Any character killed by swamp disease becomes a fogwalker and can't be resurrected by an elixir of life. Swamp disease can be cured by drinking holy water, which is then discarded.

So how big is that toxic cloud tile?

[Gold Bearer]

Toxic Cloud
Place the toxic cloud tile so that at least one square of it is in the casters line of sight. Any non undead and non swamp based character that starts their turn in a toxic cloud rolls a combat dice. On a skull they miss their turn due to coughing and choking on the foul vapours and on a black shield they miss their turn and suffer one body point of damage. The cloud lasts for as long as the caster is alive.

[Teldurn]

Is the toxic cloud tile 2x2 squares?