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Extrapolating ICE SPELLS set from BQP Spell Scrolls

PostPosted: October 3rd, 2021, 10:51 am
by lestodante
The Barbarian Quest Pack has enough Spell Scrolls related to ICE to create an ICE SPELLS set.
I would like to create 3 basics spells and 3 more powerful.
Actually the original scrolls in the game are: Chill, Ice Storm, Ice Bridge, Psychic Recover, Skate, and Warmth.
Not sure if Warmth should be included in the set as it is the opposite to any idea of COLD. So I would probably change it with the Wall of Ice from WoM.
Also I would like to make them different from the Frozen horror spells as they are an exact copy of the Chaos Spells included in this quest pack. Any suggestion would be much appreciated for this.
During the Barbarian Quest Pack the Heroes use the Ice spell scrolls; the idea is once they completed the questpack they took confident with these spells and learnt them, so the new Ice Spell set will become available.
I asked the_maal_ to draw some new images and here is a first demo version for Skate and Ice Bridge.

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Re: Extrapolating ICE SPELLS set from BQP Spell Scrolls

PostPosted: October 3rd, 2021, 11:47 pm
by Kurgan
I imagine Arnold as Mr. Freeze from Batman & Robin would love these. He did also play Conan and another similar barbarian character in Red Sonja, so maybe he could learn magic...

Re: Extrapolating ICE SPELLS set from BQP Spell Scrolls

PostPosted: October 16th, 2021, 5:37 pm
by lestodante
Also found a French HeroQuester who created a custom artwork for the Ice spells (he did many more too) but seems he's not sharing them anywhere.
I think they look very nice and match the style of the others very good.

Re: Extrapolating ICE SPELLS set from BQP Spell Scrolls

PostPosted: October 18th, 2021, 9:55 am
by lestodante
So I was able to get in touch with him and he was so gently to share the full artwork.
If you wish to have a look and see more of his artworks visit his instagram profile at @ghan_happy_kitbash
I did two attempts at creating an european version of the card; the first one has a closer look at the face but is cutting away part of the artwork; also the colors are slightly modified to make the sky more clean.
The second one is showing the whole artwork and its original colors (I applied very few retouches on this).
Please let me know which one fits better for you:
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Re: Extrapolating ICE SPELLS set from BQP Spell Scrolls

PostPosted: October 18th, 2021, 10:29 am
by Kurgan
I enjoy this artist's attempt to create another elemental character to represent the spell group in keeping with the theme of the original artwork. I would not have thought to make him moving through the air, but that emphasizes that the "ice" spells don't just involve stuff happening on the ground level.

When I was trying to categorize my spells, I just lumped all the ice in with water and actually interpreted skate as air (but I can see the other interpretation).

Re: Extrapolating ICE SPELLS set from BQP Spell Scrolls

PostPosted: October 18th, 2021, 10:43 am
by lestodante
Kurgan wrote:I would not have thought to make him moving through the air

But he's not flying, the image represents the Ice elemental moving on a "queue" of ice. It matchs good with the idea of the Ice Bridge spell in my opinion.

Re: Extrapolating ICE SPELLS set from BQP Spell Scrolls

PostPosted: October 20th, 2021, 9:32 am
by Daedalus
lestodante wrote:. . . Also I would like to make them different from the Frozen horror spells as they are an exact copy of the Chaos Spells included in this quest pack. Any suggestion would be much appreciated for this.

I asked the_maal_ to draw some new images and here is a first demo version for Skate and Ice Bridge.

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For Skate, I'd change ". . . The spellcaster adds 6 to his red dice movement roll . . ." to . . .The spellcaster may add 6 to his movement roll . . .. Either that or go all in on dice: . . .The spellcaster may roll an extra red die for movement. . ..

Do you think the opening sentence of Skate needs broadening? I mean, as it is, "move quickly through icy caverns and corridors" could be taken as not applying to normal Quest rooms and corridors (as in the BQP.) If you agree, how about this change: This spell creates an icy path that enables the spellcaster to move quickly through caverns, rooms and corridors. The idea is the spell provides its own Ice rather than requiring it.

Re: Extrapolating ICE SPELLS set from BQP Spell Scrolls

PostPosted: October 20th, 2021, 11:21 am
by Daedalus
lestodante wrote:. . . I did two attempts at creating an european version of the card; the first one has a closer look at the face but is cutting away part of the artwork; also the colors are slightly modified to make the sky more clean.
The second one is showing the whole artwork and its original colors (I applied very few retouches on this).
Please let me know which one fits better for you:
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I like your closer crop since the larger size of the figure better matches the original elemental spells. However, I prefer the bottom base of the original, where the jagged ice outcropping from which the elemental arises is visible. My suggestion would be to combine both elements: larger figure with ice outcropping (and scrolling) moved up and superimposed onto the horizontal ice flow.

Re: Extrapolating ICE SPELLS set from BQP Spell Scrolls

PostPosted: October 21st, 2021, 7:07 am
by lestodante
Daedalus wrote:Do you think the opening senence of Skate needs broadening? I mean, as it is, "move quickly through icy caverns and corridors" could be taken as not applying to normal Quest rooms and corridors (as in the BQP.) If you agree, how about this change: This spell creates an icy path that enables the spellcaster to move quickly through caverns, rooms and corridors. The idea is the spell provides its own Ice rather than requiring it.

Good idea. As the Frozen Horros questpack will be completed, they must be able to use this set of spells also elsewhere, not just on icy locations.

Daedalus wrote:I like your closer crop since the larger size of the figure better matches the original elemental spells. However, I prefer the bottom base of the original, where the jagged ice outcropping from which the elemental arises is visible. My suggestion would be to combine both elements: larger figure with ice outcropping (and scrolling) moved up and superimposed onto the horizontal ice flow.


I agree. So applied some perspective to the bottom part to make it smaller and visible without reducing too much the body of the Ice Elemental (now seems to be even bigger).
The ice queue is more visible than in the 1st one but still not completely visible as in the 2nd. Here is the 3rd attempt together with the previous two, but I am still not satisfied of the result:

(EDIT: added take 4 too)
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Re: Extrapolating ICE SPELLS set from BQP Spell Scrolls

PostPosted: November 6th, 2021, 1:44 pm
by lestodante
Just received some more sketches for this set!
Basically, they are the same images of their evil counterparts but with inverted roles!
Picture below shows the following:
Chill - Soothe
Mind Freeze - Skate

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