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Re: HeroQuest's lost Quest Packs: Wizard and Dwarf Quest Pac

Postby lestodante » Saturday March 12th, 2022 1:57pm

:roll: not sure what he was referring to but, it can be!

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Re: HeroQuest's lost Quest Packs: Wizard and Dwarf Quest Pac

Postby lucapaschi » Saturday March 12th, 2022 2:44pm

Nah, I just think it's one of the random jokes he's throwing from time to time... :D
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Re: HeroQuest's lost Quest Packs: Wizard and Dwarf Quest Pac

Postby HispaZargon » Saturday March 12th, 2022 6:46pm

Zargon seems to be afraid and nervous... now he suspects the Wizard will be enough powerful to defeat him :-)
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Re: HeroQuest's lost Quest Packs: Wizard and Dwarf Quest Pac

Postby Fullork345 » Saturday March 19th, 2022 6:46am

lucapaschi wrote:One could argue it's not easy to crash sales of a product that has never been published... :) We don't even know if they're going to make it, and they definitely don't have the material to produce it anymore as it was intended (the 4 ups, just to name one). I would still be curious enough to buy a new one if they made it. But yeah, Hasbro's lawyer might feel different about this!
hasbro allows free fan stuff, but if their lawyers did get involved it wouldnt go well, they can tie people up in court fees before trial. I doubt itll go that far though. Unless you were selling it and it turned out theh also had the drafts.
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Re: HeroQuest's lost Quest Packs: Wizard and Dwarf Quest Pac

Postby lucapaschi » Saturday March 19th, 2022 5:18pm

Fullork345 wrote:
lucapaschi wrote:One could argue it's not easy to crash sales of a product that has never been published... :) We don't even know if they're going to make it, and they definitely don't have the material to produce it anymore as it was intended (the 4 ups, just to name one). I would still be curious enough to buy a new one if they made it. But yeah, Hasbro's lawyer might feel different about this!
hasbro allows free fan stuff, but if their lawyers did get involved it wouldnt go well, they can tie people up in court fees before trial. I doubt itll go that far though. Unless you were selling it and it turned out theh also had the drafts.


We'll have to wait and see... For now, it's just been a money pit and we're doing all of it for free. What we'll realease will either be free or be priced at covering the costs, tooling and printing, no extra money.
Then again, I think it could be a resource for Hasbro rather than an obstacle. :)
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Re: HeroQuest's lost Quest Packs: Wizard and Dwarf Quest Pac

Postby Kurgan » Sunday April 24th, 2022 2:23pm

Imagine if they offered to buy it all off of us (an offer unable to be refused) and gathered back the rights so they could put their own release out? Then again I wouldn't bank on anything, other than we don't want to step on their toes. If the STLs for the models were out there and the pdfs for the documents and let people print their own or just read it for historical and non-commercial entertainment purposes, surely it wouldn't be a big deal until some enterprising soul decides to print it up and start selling it online (sadly we've seen it done to our own homebrews on Ye Olde Inn)... drawing the ire of lawyers... :P

Now if they knew about it and gave it their blessing somehow, that would be really cool. So I hope whatever happens this little project doesn't get crushed before its time! If it inspires Hasbro to release the "real thing" and this fades into obscurity (except to a few nerd historians like us) that wouldn't necessarily be the worst thing in the world. Even so it would have the remake flare instead of the original "classic" style to it, such as it might have been in '93/'94. The info alone is a gold mine... any homebrewer with the original sets could easily re-recreate it on their own for private use.

I'm not a legal expert myself, but if the rights to the unreleased packs lapsed back to the writers and they gave it away meaning they gave up their rights to it, would it become public domain? I wish I knew...

For all we know Avalon Hill will be given the green light to release a brand new Wizard and Dwarf pack that have nothing to do with the old ones except in the most general of coincidental ways and the main customer base will be none the wiser. If the Frozen Horror is a commercial success, it seems a foregone conclusion that this will be the eventual plan anyway.


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Re: HeroQuest's lost Quest Packs: Wizard and Dwarf Quest Pac

Postby lucapaschi » Sunday April 24th, 2022 3:18pm

We’ll see. I think it might not be a coincidence that the name featured on the new box doesn’t have “barbarian” in it. I think they might have made a slight redesign as to make it a generic and non class-specific pack. Maybe they knew they couldn’t deliver one pack for each hero, or that it would make more sense to release something different altogether.
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Re: HeroQuest's lost Quest Packs: Wizard and Dwarf Quest Pac

Postby lestodante » Sunday April 24th, 2022 5:18pm

But they included a female Barbarian too...


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Re: HeroQuest's lost Quest Packs: Wizard and Dwarf Quest Pac

Postby lucapaschi » Sunday April 24th, 2022 5:20pm

Might be just because it fits the storyline, but if you change the first three quests, it's a generic pack for the whole gang.
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Re: HeroQuest's lost Quest Packs: Wizard and Dwarf Quest Pac

Postby HispaZargon » Sunday April 24th, 2022 5:57pm

I bet the remake's BQP will have exactly the same storyline and quests configuration as the original. I would be really surprised if they changed something after seeing what they have already released up to now.
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