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Add 1d6 to your att\def

PostPosted: Friday November 8th, 2019 8:46pm
by Josh
Not sure if it's been discussed, but how about rolling a 1d6 in addition to your attack or deffence?

By rolling a 6 it could act as an additional point of dammage, allow you to reroll one BShield on an Att or Def...maybe allow you to loan out an Att or Def to an adjacent hero (by retroactively pretending you both teamed up on that particular enemy for that particular swing) or allow the adjacent hero to reroll a single BShield (pretending you assisted in his Defense.) Or other things I'm not even thinking about.

This addition sounds like it would be a magical item, but you could add it to all weapons or armor if you wanted. A not so often bonus that pops up to cheer up your players.

If it is a magical item, perhaps its extremely powerful & allows said benefits on the roll of a 6 or 5! That might be pushing it though.

I've noticed ppl trying to find ways to Buff items & thought maybe this could be added.

Let me know what you think, thanks!

Re: Add 1d6 to your att\def

PostPosted: Saturday November 9th, 2019 2:33am
by Anderas
I don't get it

What does it to? Trigger a special ability? For me the question is then: How to you choose the ability and how to you level up to the next die roll?



By the way (off topic) I put your posting into the gpt2 transformer and it opined that your text should be completed like this. Bold text comes from you.

When defending you could "loan" out a defence Die to an adjacent Hero.
Basically any number of our normal small powered ideas we had that a character could use. It has to be something very weak but useful.


I'd like to add more, but for now I'd like to have this idea in the game.

I need to know how the dice roll when using it to "borrow" the defence die from another Hero, is that all or is it some other mechanic?

Re: Add 1d6 to your att\def

PostPosted: Monday November 25th, 2019 6:26pm
by Josh
Forget the leveling thing, it would just complicate it. But rolling a D6 with your normal Attack or defense could add an effect that gives you something or takes something away from your enemy.

Re: Add 1d6 to your att\def

PostPosted: Thursday June 4th, 2020 5:03pm
by Josh
I re edited my post to make more sense. Would love your opinions on it!

My problems with the idea are that if it is allowed for every Att & Def roll, then perhaps it is to OP & might need to be relegated to just a single magical item that has that benefit.

Or maybe it works on just your Attacks or just on you Defense. Maybe only usable two times per room, idk.

Re: Add 1d6 to your att\def

PostPosted: Friday June 5th, 2020 1:30am
by Anderas
For Space Crusade I once had house ruled that the attacker gets one white die more for every friendly figure which is standing adjacent to the same enemy, and that is willing to give up his own attack.

That worked for both sides. So 5 Space Marines teaming up on one Dreadnought worked, 3 gretchins teaming up with one android on that pesky commander worked, too.

You could prevent that by putting one of your own models adjacent to each enemy model - we said back then, if you're loaded with your own enemy, you are occupied and can't help your friend, effectively negating the bonus. That led to some rugby-like situations; when the Space Marines couldn't clear out the monsters fast enough, the monsters were teaming, then the Spacies were forced to team up, too, in pure self defense, with commanders at the flank. Next game, the Space Marine player was replacing one of the Space Marine Teams with a Scout team - more models on the board, more bonus. Well, that escalated a bit. But it was fun, at least we were playing space crusade a few times then.
It was really great fun when everybody was teaming up for close combat and then someone fired one of the big weapons. haha. :D

Ok, here's the real issue I see: a Hero and 3 scouts mobbing the dungeon boss, ok, I can factor in that new rule and put a bigger dungeon boss.
But then, Witch Lord expansion, The forgotten Legion for example: One Mummy teaming up with 3 Skeletons, oh la la, that's deadly for the hero.

Your idea is rather, if models team up and stand adjacent to friends, they may roll d6 and trigger some additional defense or attack. The main difference is, it is not automatic but you have to roll a die. I could imagine both, defense and attack bonuses. But then you need space on the board for formations, most rooms are too small for that.

Re: Add 1d6 to your att\def

PostPosted: Friday June 5th, 2020 3:12am
by Stig
Anderas wrote:For Space Crusade I once had house ruled that the attacker gets one white die more for every friendly figure which is standing adjacent to the same enemy...You could prevent that by putting one of your own models adjacent to each enemy model


This is exactly how blood bowl works. Can’t recommend the game highly enough! The strong races function by having more dice to roll in attack and access to the “Guard” skill, which allows for buffing adjacent teammates even whilst adjacent to the enemy; agile races have superior movement allowing them to run away!

Re: Add 1d6 to your att\def

PostPosted: Friday June 5th, 2020 4:04am
by Stig
Josh wrote:Not sure if it's been discussed, but how about rolling a 1d6 in addition to your attack or deffence?


I think this is a great idea as it
-doesn't slow the game down
-doesn't require arithmetic, ie it's not like a modifier

I use this with a defensive skill called "evade" (taken from WHQ) where if a 6 is rolled the hero can move to an an adjacent square (if available) to avoid all damage

Re: Add 1d6 to your att\def

PostPosted: Friday June 5th, 2020 7:44am
by slev
To make this kind of ability work in my set, I added abilities that allow a certain number of skulls to be re-rolled in defence, of a certain number of friendly shields to be re-rolled in attack. Thgis then means you;re only worrying about combat dice.

I deliberately had no method of re-rolling enemy shields however, which does interesting things with probability when using the German dice...

Re: Add 1d6 to your att\def

PostPosted: Friday June 5th, 2020 8:55am
by Thor-in
Kinda sounds like you are looking to make a proficiency skill with weapons to me or at least that is how I'm reading this.

So say the barbarian is proficient with the broad sword which has 3 white dice for attack, instead the barbarian would get 3 white dice plus 1d6 every time they attack? Yes, no maybe?

I like the idea but I wouldn't use a d6, you would have a 1 in 6 chance of always doing a "critical" hit with adding a chance for another white die. I would use something else like a d12 and only getting the extra die when you roll an 12. Which is pushing things into D&D mode more then HQ, but it could work.

How though would you do a leveling up part to make the Hero proficient in a attack or defense?

Re: Add 1d6 to your att\def

PostPosted: Friday June 5th, 2020 9:41am
by Stig
Thor-in wrote: How though would you do a leveling up part to make the Hero proficient in a attack or defense?


I'm putting together a system for this in my homebrew. When you have enough XP you roll 1D6 to determine which skill you get. Here's the card for the Barbarian, which has the skill table on the back face:

Barbarian Front.png
Barbarian Back.png


XP is awarded for completing a Quest, recovering an artifict, or killing a named monster. Having 3 different possible skills at each level means they don't always level up in the same way, but still level up in an appropriate way for the character