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Re: Definitive, Unofficially Official, HQ Cartography Discus

Postby Dezziedc » Sunday July 28th, 2019 1:20am

Spookyhappyfun wrote:
Weltenlaeufer wrote:This is GOLD spooky! Thanks for all the work and writing it all out!


Thanks! I'm glad you like it and I hope it helps.


Hey spooky, based on the work you have done, does this map align with the terrain you were working with?

http://www.gitzmansgallery.com/shdmotwow-full.html
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Re: Definitive, Unofficially Official, HQ Cartography Discus

Postby Spookyhappyfun » Sunday July 28th, 2019 10:53am

Dezziedc wrote:Hey spooky, based on the work you have done, does this map align with the terrain you were working with?

http://www.gitzmansgallery.com/shdmotwow-full.html


I definitely used that map for some of the locations. It should work well.
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Re: Definitive, Unofficially Official, HQ Cartography Discus

Postby Dezziedc » Sunday July 28th, 2019 3:55pm

Spookyhappyfun wrote:
Dezziedc wrote:Hey spooky, based on the work you have done, does this map align with the terrain you were working with?

http://www.gitzmansgallery.com/shdmotwow-full.html


I definitely used that map for some of the locations. It should work well.



Thanks. I might just annoy you occassionally to pin point some locations. That map will work well because of all of the homesteads and small location names everywhere. For example, the tower just south of Nuln - obviously on the map there is an opportunity to use the smaller locations to get a more accurate location.


At this stage I'm just looking to map out the original game locations - not the expansions. At least just as a starting point.


The other thing I noted was that the first book doesn't actually align with the maps. Dave Morris mentions that here: http://fabledlands.blogspot.com/2016/12/fellowship.html

He also talks about Games Workshop bringing out their own map for the world. Does anyone know which map he is referring to? Is it the one on the back of magazine (the yellowy coloured one?)
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Re: Definitive, Unofficially Official, HQ Cartography Discus

Postby Spookyhappyfun » Sunday July 28th, 2019 4:59pm

I think I used the big map to get precise details on some of them, so if I mentioned a place name, you can probably pinpoint it down to somewhere on the big map. In the case of, say, Mentor's Tower, it wouldn't be on the map, because it's really just like right outside the city wall in my mind, and would be labelled as just part of Nuln on the map.

From what I understand of the novels, Dave Morris came up with his own geography and the map is linked here somewhere. The map Games Workshop brought out, was probably that yellow-y one, but I think really it's just the general map of the Old World. Basically, they let him know, 'Nah, it's not your weird little world you worked on, it's Warhammer. Sorry, dude.'

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Re: Definitive, Unofficially Official, HQ Cartography Discus

Postby Dezziedc » Sunday July 28th, 2019 6:24pm

Spookyhappyfun wrote:I think I used the big map to get precise details on some of them, so if I mentioned a place name, you can probably pinpoint it down to somewhere on the big map. In the case of, say, Mentor's Tower, it wouldn't be on the map, because it's really just like right outside the city wall in my mind, and would be labelled as just part of Nuln on the map.

From what I understand of the novels, Dave Morris came up with his own geography and the map is linked here somewhere. The map Games Workshop brought out, was probably that yellow-y one, but I think really it's just the general map of the Old World. Basically, they let him know, 'Nah, it's not your weird little world you worked on, it's Warhammer. Sorry, dude.'

But yeah, any specific questions about any of my stuff, ask away!


Awesome. Thanks Spooky. Yeah that's the sort of stuff I'll be clarifying. As you said, most of what you've provided has some very specific detail already so it will only be what's left.

Obviously it's a huge undertaking so I'm looking to try and understand a bit more detail in some of the locations - things like the size and feel of the cities (or larger locations etc) and so on. I won't be including those little locations for a first pass. Just wanting to build in the key areas mentioned in the HQ artifacts. There's a wealth of info in this thread so I should be able to get something out of it.

And yeah, that link outlines some of the information from Dave Morris. He provides 2 maps in that blog - an initial sketch and then a more detailed map. I haven't read all 3 books but he mentions that it's pretty much only the first one that is screwed up. Pretty frustrating when you are reading it and he's talking about locations that are actually on the map but aren't aligning with the positioning that he's talking about!!! Does your head in!!!
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Re: Definitive, Unofficially Official, HQ Cartography Discus

Postby Dezziedc » Monday July 29th, 2019 5:06am

Dezziedc wrote:
Spookyhappyfun wrote:I think I used the big map to get precise details on some of them, so if I mentioned a place name, you can probably pinpoint it down to somewhere on the big map. In the case of, say, Mentor's Tower, it wouldn't be on the map, because it's really just like right outside the city wall in my mind, and would be labelled as just part of Nuln on the map.

From what I understand of the novels, Dave Morris came up with his own geography and the map is linked here somewhere. The map Games Workshop brought out, was probably that yellow-y one, but I think really it's just the general map of the Old World. Basically, they let him know, 'Nah, it's not your weird little world you worked on, it's Warhammer. Sorry, dude.'

But yeah, any specific questions about any of my stuff, ask away!


Awesome. Thanks Spooky. Yeah that's the sort of stuff I'll be clarifying. As you said, most of what you've provided has some very specific detail already so it will only be what's left.

Obviously it's a huge undertaking so I'm looking to try and understand a bit more detail in some of the locations - things like the size and feel of the cities (or larger locations etc) and so on. I won't be including those little locations for a first pass. Just wanting to build in the key areas mentioned in the HQ artifacts. There's a wealth of info in this thread so I should be able to get something out of it.

And yeah, that link outlines some of the information from Dave Morris. He provides 2 maps in that blog - an initial sketch and then a more detailed map. I haven't read all 3 books but he mentions that it's pretty much only the first one that is screwed up. Pretty frustrating when you are reading it and he's talking about locations that are actually on the map but aren't aligning with the positioning that he's talking about!!! Does your head in!!!


Actually just noticed that that site with the huge map also has some city maps as well. They could be a good starting point.
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Re: Definitive, Unofficially Official, HQ Cartography Discus

Postby Anderas » Monday July 29th, 2019 7:00am

I asked the guy with his huge map a while ago if it is possible to share coordinates like in Google maps. He said it was, but then he made an update and now this function is broken.

Otherwise it could really be cool, just sharing location links... :D


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Re: Definitive, Unofficially Official, HQ Cartography Discus

Postby Dezziedc » Monday July 29th, 2019 7:14am

Anderas wrote:I asked the guy with his huge map a while ago if it is possible to share coordinates like in Google maps. He said it was, but then he made an update and now this function is broken.

Otherwise it could really be cool, just sharing location links... :D


Yeah that would be handy!!! Would make things much easier!
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Re: Definitive, Unofficially Official, HQ Cartography Discus

Postby Weltenlaeufer » Monday July 29th, 2019 2:52pm

Spookyhappyfun wrote:
Weltenlaeufer wrote:This is GOLD spooky! Thanks for all the work and writing it all out!


Thanks! I'm glad you like it and I hope it helps.


I love it, really like all the locations. I printed out the World Map (big one green/blue), the Old World Map (medium) and the Empire (small).

I took all your locations and decided on a few locations you havent decided on yet for myself, because it seems there are no hints anyway. I have no background on warhammer, so for me the three maps are just handy Heroquest maps.

Here are a few I chose.

"Race against Time" - Mount of Krell like you proposed

"Castle of Mystery" - I choose Castle Drachenfels for that in the grey mountains

"Bastion of Chaos" - Karaz a Karak, east of black fire pass and close to the silver road

"Barak Tor - Barrow of the Witchlord" - Karak Azul, close to the fire mountain ( I found this is fitting, the biggest evil being close to the fire mountain, lord of the rings style)

"Quest for the Spirit Blade" - at the edge of the Fire Mountain

"Return to Barak Tor" - Karak Azul

"Kellars Keep Expansion" - part of the Underground Fortress of Karak Varn, near Black Fire Pass

"Return of the Witchlord" - Kalos, an underground keep under the ruined city of Morgheim

Really liked all your locations, I gonna try to pinpoint the rest from your list now. :)


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Re: Definitive, Unofficially Official, HQ Cartography Discus

Postby cornixt » Monday July 29th, 2019 4:13pm

Anderas wrote:I asked the guy with his huge map a while ago if it is possible to share coordinates like in Google maps. He said it was, but then he made an update and now this function is broken.

Otherwise it could really be cool, just sharing location links... :D


Just stick a grid on a map and reference it like old fashioned paper maps.


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