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Does Veil of Mist work on Ogres?

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Re: Does Veil of Mist work on Ogres?

Postby Goblin-King » Monday November 12th, 2018 5:03am

Normally in games like this, the golden rule is that if there's a conflict between the rulebook and a card, the card trumps the rulebook.
So I would say YES, Veil of Mist allows you to pass through even ogres.

In addition to that, the Wizard needs every advantage he can get to be fun to play. His spells don't need extra limitations.


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Re: Does Veil of Mist work on Ogres?

Postby wallydubbs » Monday November 12th, 2018 7:22am

Stoner81 wrote:
wallydubbs wrote:Yeah but you really can't go by the card's picture, Borin's Armor clearly shows a helmet and yet it's only meant to be plate mail that doesn't slow you down.


I see your point however, the name "Borin's Armour" implies (to me at least) that it is a full set of armour which would include a helmet, boots and bracers which incidentally a full suit of full plate mail would (I'm thinking of the armour from the Knight of Camelot etc). For this reason I don't allow plate mail (battle plate I call it) or Borin's Armour to be used in conjunction with a helmet, boots or bracers.

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That could be up for interpretation as well, I've noticed there's a difference in wording between the American and European version of Borin's Armor and Plate mail for that matter. European version gives you straight up 2 additional defense dice. Although the North American version does the same thing, it does slightly explain that Borin's Armor is plate mail that doesn't slow you down.
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Re: Does Veil of Mist work on Ogres?

Postby Stoner81 » Monday November 12th, 2018 8:10am

wallydubbs wrote:That could be up for interpretation as well, I've noticed there's a difference in wording between the American and European version of Borin's Armor and Plate mail for that matter. European version gives you straight up 2 additional defense dice. Although the North American version does the same thing, it does slightly explain that Borin's Armor is plate mail that doesn't slow you down.


This is one of the biggest reasons why this forum exists in my opinion. So we can mod the living crap out of the game and fix all this type of thing. At the end of the day you are the DM/EWP, it's your game therefore your rules. Rule it how you see fit.

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Re: Does Veil of Mist work on Ogres?

Postby wallydubbs » Monday November 26th, 2018 12:18pm

Well, through consideration of what everyone has said Veil of Mist is a spell of limited use and I really don't want to limit it any further then it has to be.

Ogre's still block line of sight and if the heroes choose to use Veil of Mist to get around the ogre, it would be a risk as they don't see anything behind him (in corridors) and they could get sandwiched.

I've been considering adding a nifty play to the Wizard's arsenal: allowing him to enchant a dagger at the cost of 1 spell, he may turn an ordinary dagger into a Magical Throwing Dagger. He will only be allowed to do this once per quest. Enchanting the dagger will cost him his actioning for 1 turn. I'm thinking Veil of Mist would be the spell most used for this action.
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