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I suggest adding the Evil Wizard Deck, from the cards page. There are a lot to be found here

(PS: leave out the "map" card, it doesn't work well)

The colored dice are great for inventing houserules. If you let the monsters defend with blue dice it is harder, in fact it is the same if you let them defend on white dice, white shields.

Both the Witch Lord and Kells keep get triggered by the base quest book and both invent some new rules, traps mainly.

Kellar's Keep is a lot harder than the Witch Lord. Apparently the Witch Lord is also more fun to play as there is a new thing each Quest, and that is making it interesting. I never tried.

Kellar's Keep has a lot more potential in the Storyline, but sadly they didn't really make something of it. OK. That's just my opinion, of course.

I tend to agree with you Whiebeard. I don't like leveling either. I do like the colored dice though! When used appropriately they can add a certain "specialness" to select monsters, weapons, armor. Just to give a hero (or Zargon) that one truly special item to make this hero feel different.

Outside of that, I love your ideas above. They are all perfect ways to deal with power creep. I would though actually play an over world encounter where the heroes have to use items or have a logical reason to give up or lose an artifact. I think just saying its lost or stolen without actually playing it is a tad harsh - at least if the same heroes are used. It's so easy to use a little imagination - Zargon and the Heroes - and have your characters show progression. I added a few outside things to help enhance this (hopefully). We have side quests, very easy goals given to the Heroes during encounters, that they track and get something when it's completed. Generally if the variety "I'm a jeweler and I need a beautiful red ruby. Find me one and ill give you xxxxxxx". Adds a touch of spice and things that each hero keeps an eye out for.

Sounds a tad stupid typed out, but it actually seems to work.

It is easy to make quests harder. Do any of the following:
-Just take away equipment (robbed in the middle of the night) half of all artefacts are missing and every other weapon costing over 400 gold is gone.
-illusion tricks you into attacking stone... roll one red die to see if weapon breaks.
-give monsters with RUST spells to counter wealth (too much gold).
-Use an invincible monster such as a cursed spirit that reappears where it was defeated one turn later.
-The emperor requests that you return several artefacts to his vaults...
-Plague quest, causes heroes to deplete their supply of healing spells and potions (they need to heal others in the dungeon / trade them for information)
-Kill all of the heroes. Once they have no equipment, the game can be impossible!

Really the biggest factor in quests being easy is the carry-over of healing potions from quest to quest. You could simply take some / all away stating that there were overland encounters causing them to be used.

The other factor is the lame "lining up in the doorways and waiting for the monsters." This is effectively countered by monsters with range weapons (even picking up rocks), monsters that open doors, two doors to the same room, and time based events... take to long to clear a room and monsters appear from behind and attack.

Other than adults over-thinking the game play with a predictable crawl mechanic, the game IS for adults. So I really don't get the question. Frankly I think "levelling up" is an out for lack of imagination. The unaltered game is about as close to perfect as you can get.

Ok, maybe asked for some of those answers!!!
What do i mean, i only played heroquest. The maze was the 1st quest and in my opinion was the hardest quest out of that book.
so now where?
i have got a copy of the witch lord, kellars keep and agaist the orge horde! was/is there any new rules for these quests?
i read about colored heroquest dice making the quests harder, as anybody around here used these dice and was the game more of a challenge?
cheers

Hi bigbob. I recently got back into heroquest after a long layoff too. Welcome to here! Its a great place.

Goblin-King wrote:Build it and they will come...

No pun intended ...

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I think the beauty of HQ is its simplicity, its great to not get bogged down in rules and you get a fast paced game that way. Perhaps take a look at (dare i say it) Advanced Heroquest if you want more?

Build it and they will come...

Adult rules - MAN we could have SOOOO much fun creating homebrew rules for that.
I mean, there IS actually a Book of Erotica for roleplaying games (D&D 3.5 rules). I've
checked it out - it's kind of messed up....diseases, S&M, all that crap.

So...umm....who's thinking we need a special thread for this?

Bigbob wrote:Hi,
I played this game some 30 years ago, I'm now back with to it with friends and was wondering if there are any new rules or rules for adults?
Thanks in advance
Bigbob

Hi, welcome aboard.

There were no advancement rules available in the originals. But there was a section for designing your own quests at the back of the quest book in the base set.

On this site there are a myriad of various homebrew rules, alterations and additions.

The original and the expansions provide for a lot of games. Once you get past them there are a number of good dungeons here on the Inn.

Remember that Quest Notes over ride all other rules. Add that to the fact the designers intended for you to make your own quests. Rock on.